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Old 07-14-2009, 10:02 PM
 
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Agree, legoman. God bless.
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:42 PM
 
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Important point: do not confuse election with salvation.

They are the same..for their is no salvation without election..
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Old 07-15-2009, 12:49 AM
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They are the same..for their is no salvation without election..
Nice logic - you can't have fruit w/out a tree but there not the same thing.
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Old 07-15-2009, 07:40 AM
 
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Nice logic - you can't have fruit w/out a tree but there not the same thing.
rabbit trail..election and salvation are the same..2 tim 2:



Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Plain, salvation is for the elect..not the non elect, which is the devils seed..
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Old 07-15-2009, 07:51 AM
 
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rabbit trail..election and salvation are the same..2 tim 2:



Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Plain, salvation is for the elect..not the non elect, which is the devils seed..
You add and change the word of God. 2 Tim 2 does not say salvation is not for the non-elect.

Salvation is for all because God is the savior of all men and His saving grace has come to save all people (1 Tim 2:4, Titus 2:11).
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Old 07-15-2009, 07:55 AM
 
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I read the scriptures mentioning the elect as those who come beforehand to pave the way for the later-born.

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Old 07-15-2009, 08:07 AM
 
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I read the scriptures mentioning the elect as those who come beforehand to pave the way for the later-born.

imo
aint no telling what you might read if not spirit taught..
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Old 07-15-2009, 08:08 AM
 
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You add and change the word of God
Thats you, I witness to the Truth as it is in christ Jesus..
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Old 07-15-2009, 08:09 AM
 
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Salvation is for all because God is the savior of all men and His saving grace has come to save all people (1 Tim 2:4, Titus 2:11).
Yeah, All Types and Sorts of people of His elect, not the children of the devil..
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Old 07-15-2009, 11:49 AM
 
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Salvation is for all because God is the savior of all men and His saving grace has come to save all people (1 Tim 2:4, Titus 2:11).
Amen. God bless.
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