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Sin is not like kryptonite to God. It doesn't weaken his position or threaten his power or rain on his parade or make void his will, or catch him off guard, or upset his plans. Even sin is part of Gods plan. He allows sin in order to educate humanity and put us all in the position of understanding our need for his mercy and strength. It is through the darkened glass of this sinful nature that we perceive God now, so that one day we might know even as we are known by him. The biblical language that places sin and evil at odds with God only represent the moral issue of right and wrong in regard to choices. God is not subject to the effects of sin. He subjects man to sin in order to demonstrate his mercy and righteous judgments. He is conditioning us to understand as he understands through trial and error ... So that we can fully be like him knowing Good and evil and ultimately choosing the Good. The Bride of Christ are the first fruits of this process, which is the purpose of Gods will through the ages, to create differentiated beings and eventually to reconcile all things to himself.
i'm trying to understand then....why is he so worried about us sinning? why does he care whether we go to heaven or hell? why does he care whether we are good or bad? if God is a kid and we're ants under a magnifying glass, why does it make a difference why we sin or do good or believe in him? your God sounds like someone who doesn't have much else to do than to worry about who does what!
ever think about it in the grand scheme of things?
help me understand!
Sin is not like kryptonite to God. It doesn't weaken his position or threaten his power or rain on his parade or make void his will, or catch him off guard, or upset his plans. Even sin is part of Gods plan. He allows sin in order to educate humanity and put us all in the position of understanding our need for his mercy and strength. It is through the darkened glass of this sinful nature that we perceive God now, so that one day we might know even as we are known by him. The biblical language that places sin and evil at odds with God only represent the moral issue of right and wrong in regard to choices. God is not subject to the effects of sin. He subjects man to sin in order to demonstrate his mercy and righteous judgments. He is conditioning us to understand as he understands through trial and error ... So that we can fully be like him knowing Good and evil and ultimately choosing the Good. The Bride of Christ are the first fruits of this process, which is the purpose of Gods will through the ages, to create differentiated beings and eventually to reconcile all things to himself.
God doesn't choose good, God is good therefore things are good because God does it.
Sin is not like kryptonite to God. It doesn't weaken his position or threaten his power or rain on his parade or make void his will, or catch him off guard, or upset his plans. Even sin is part of Gods plan. He allows sin in order to educate humanity and put us all in the position of understanding our need for his mercy and strength. It is through the darkened glass of this sinful nature that we perceive God now, so that one day we might know even as we are known by him. The biblical language that places sin and evil at odds with God only represent the moral issue of right and wrong in regard to choices. God is not subject to the effects of sin. He subjects man to sin in order to demonstrate his mercy and righteous judgments. He is conditioning us to understand as he understands through trial and error ... So that we can fully be like him knowing Good and evil and ultimately choosing the Good. The Bride of Christ are the first fruits of this process, which is the purpose of Gods will through the ages, to create differentiated beings and eventually to reconcile all things to himself.
None of this makes any sense. If God didn't hate sin so much, why did Jesus pay such a high price for it on the cross????
i'm trying to understand then....why is he so worried about us sinning? why does he care whether we go to heaven or hell? why does he care whether we are good or bad? if God is a kid and we're ants under a magnifying glass, why does it make a difference why we sin or do good or believe in him? your God sounds like someone who doesn't have much else to do than to worry about who does what!
ever think about it in the grand scheme of things?
help me understand!
He's God....if you made a clay figure. Would you expect your clay figure to answer back at you..asking why did you make me like this? what do you care what I do? Ultimately He does everything for His glory.
Last edited by Fundamentalist; 07-14-2009 at 02:33 PM..
He's God....if you made a clay figure. Would you expect your clay figure to answer back at you..asking why did you make me like this? what do you care what I do? Ultimately He does everything for His glory.
if i made a clay figure, i wouldn't give a damn if he/she worshipped me or wheather he went to heaven or hell. what do you mean everything is done by him for His glory? he's doing everything for himself? i don't understand!
it's a legit question. why would god care wheather you sin or not, or wheather you go to heaven or hell....Does he not have anything better to do than to worry about that?
i'm trying to understand then....why is he so worried about us sinning? why does he care whether we go to heaven or hell? why does he care whether we are good or bad? if God is a kid and we're ants under a magnifying glass, why does it make a difference why we sin or do good or believe in him? your God sounds like someone who doesn't have much else to do than to worry about who does what!
ever think about it in the grand scheme of things?
help me understand!
The point is that God cares for you. even though you are in sin. He only wants you to come to understand that and turn to him and accept him as your savior and redeemer. He is not a kid and you are not like an ant to him under a magnifying glass. You are like his own child who he loves and is determined to raise up to be like him. To know and do what is right. Evil exists so you can experience what it is like to go against god. When you hurt someone the consequences are very real and those consequences will eventually testify of our need for God, and to do what is good. The nature of evil as God has created it is to destroy even itself. When we give in to evil we destroy, but when we do God we build up.
God isn't worried about you sinning, he is invested in your learning and growing and and maturing overcoming. When i want to make my muscles bigger, i lift lots of weight over and over again in repetition. It hurts and is exhausting but the process while causing the muscle to break down, when it heals the muscle come back even denser and more strong then before i broke it down. Adversity provides opportunity for the development of Character.
if i made a clay figure, i wouldn't give a damn if he/she worshipped me or wheather he went to heaven or hell. what do you mean everything is done by him for His glory? he's doing everything for himself? i don't understand!
it's a legit question. why would god care wheather you sin or not, or wheather you go to heaven or hell....Does he not have anything better to do than to worry about that?
You would if that was your nature. We don't know why God does the things He does, His ways are foreign to us...why does He allow sin, why does He allow suffering? if I could answer those questions then i would be God. One thing that is clear in the bible God does everything for His glory, it is His nature to receive His glory. That's just the way it is. Asking God how does He get the glory in these ways is like asking a person, why do you breathe?
None of this makes any sense. If God didn't hate sin so much, why did Jesus pay such a high price for it on the cross????
Again, i believe you are confusing the anthropomorphic language of scripture that denotes Gods will concerning evil with Gods sovereignty. God does not like sin, he does hate it when it is left without redemption. With redemption sin is able to work in Gods favor by providing mankind with the perspective(knowledge) of Good and evil. We wouldn't know what good was either without the first sin. In order to truly understand good we must experience evil. That is why it is said that Christ is the lamb slain before the foundation of the world, in preparation for this this necessary part of the process of creation.
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