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Old 07-30-2009, 01:58 PM
 
Location: RI
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Dont forget to qualify that statement! The fundamental and orthodox Christian religion! Early Christianity was not an institution. It only became institutionalized when it became the state religion of Rome. Now all protestant faiths are more or less the bastard children of the Roman Catholic Institution, and it shows. Chips off the old block you might say ... The Roman Catholic Church was among the first of many terrorist organizations.

Yes , the early church was not the institution the church as become.
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Old 07-30-2009, 02:23 PM
 
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Gods Love is for His Own amongst mankind..Jn 13:

Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.

He doesnt Love the workers of iniquity, the seed of the devil ps 5:

5The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

Neither did He pray for all mankind for their spiritual good, conversion and salvation..Jn 17:



9I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
Oh beloved, you really must allow God to melt that frozen heart of yours friend. You're so spiteful, it really isn't good for your health. God loves the whole of his creation and everything and everyone in it, because God is love.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world(Greek - kosmos, the whole universe and everything in it), that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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Old 07-30-2009, 02:51 PM
 
Location: The A
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Oh beloved, you really must allow God to melt that frozen heart of yours friend. You're so spiteful, it really isn't good for your health. God loves the whole of his creation and everything and everyone in it, because God is love.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world(Greek - kosmos, the whole universe and everything in it), that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
God hates the non elect, and has created them for destruction.ps 5:

5The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:05 PM
 
Location: NC
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We are to be people of love, not hate. Allow the love of God to fill your heart, beloved. It is good for you. God is love, and not hate. He loves all mankind, having given His Son for us all You will come to see it one day. That is what agape love is all about. Jesus tells us that we must "hate" our relatives to follow Him and we know that He is not talking about literal hate. God bless.
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:09 PM
 
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We are to be people of love, not hate. Allow the love of God to fill your heart, beloved. It is good for you. God is love, and not hate. He loves all mankind, having given His Son for us all You will come to see it one day. That is what agape love is all about. Jesus tells us that we must "hate" our relatives to follow Him and we know that He is not talking about literal hate. God bless.
God Hates the None Elect, And So Does His People..David said:

ps 139:

Thy enemies take thy name in vain.

21Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? 22I hate them with perfect hatred:

This attitude actually manifested Davids Love for His God, and Gods Honor..
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:10 PM
 
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God hates the non elect, and has created them for destruction.ps 5:

5The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Oh beloved ... You just cant get it into your head that the Ancient Hebrew and Koine Greek languages do not translate easily into English. Or that the ancient eastern mind didn't think the way that the western mind does today.
God hated Israel at times as well. It could just as well be said that God hated even Jesus, when Jesus became sin and was forsaken. The English word hate carries far more malice than its Greek and Hebrew counterparts. God loves even what he hates. The words translated hate only refer to Gods disposition toward their motives.

Romans 5:8
"and God doth commend His own love to us, that, in our being still sinners, Christ did die for us;"

You are a sinner Beloved. Does god hate you? We are all sinners in our flesh. Sin is in the very fleshly members(parts) of the body. God loves us anyway, and he died for us to prove it and establish us in his new creation.
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:12 PM
 
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Amen and Amen God bless.
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:13 PM
 
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God Hates the None Elect, And So Does His People..David said:

ps 139:

Thy enemies take thy name in vain.

21Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? 22I hate them with perfect hatred:

This attitude actually manifested Davids Love for His God, and Gods Honor..
Do you hate your mother and father Beloved? Do your children hate you?
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:16 PM
 
Location: NC
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Can you please show us one scripture that teaches that God is hate, beloved, since this what you seem to be focused on? As some have shared, your message is not a message of hope but of hate and hopelessness So very sad... God bless.
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:42 PM
 
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Do you hate your mother and father Beloved? Do your children hate you?
I have done a post on that issue, read it..
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