Is it a Godly thought when you desire All men to be saved ? (convert, eternal) - - Page 27 - City-Data Forum

Phazelwood · 08-03-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by beloved57

I already stated that I had no choice in my destiny, thank God , He chose me for salvation..

But as for you, I dont know, for you dont believe the Truth so it may be your not elect..

Your doctrine cannot adequatly show your salvation now, you can only claim it. It is not up to you so if you think you have salvation now, you could be deceived, if your deceived you will not be able to say that you are, you will just be.

That is your doctrine, it does not offer you any assurance, saying that you have been chosen to salvation now is a lie because you cannot demonstrate it's truth to yourself or anyone else.

beloved57 · 08-03-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Phazelwood

Your doctrine cannot adequatly show your salvation now, you can only claim it. It is not up to you so if you think you have salvation now, you could be deceived, if your deceived you will not be able to say that you are, you will just be.

That is your doctrine, it does not offer you any assurance, saying that you have been chosen to salvation now is a lie because you cannot demonstrate it's truth to yourself or anyone else.

When one doesnt believe the Gospel as you do and at the same time preach another gospel..thats almost a sure fire that your not elect..

Phazelwood · 08-03-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by beloved57

When one doesnt believe the Gospel as you do and at the same time preach another gospel..thats almost a sure fire that your not elect..

Doesn't change anything concerning your doctrine.

Rejoicer · 08-03-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Phazelwood

It doesn't have to be directly said, God did not make the rules, "it's too late" or "no second chances" man has interpreted that way.

All will bow and confess to the glory of God the father, that's a God rule.

As long as you are alive "it is never too late", and God is the God of second chances, people get more than second chances, so I'm not sure what you mean by your post.

jimmiej · 08-03-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rejoicer

As long as you are alive "it is never too late", and God is the God of second chances, people get more than second chances, so I'm not sure what you mean by your post.

Hello good friend!

Rejoicer · 08-03-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Phazelwood

True, but free will does not prevent the drawing of all men.

That's right, God draws all men to Himself, but free will allows us to either accept or reject.

Jesus said "No one can come to Me, unless the Father who sent Me draw him: and I will raise him up on the last day.

Rejoicer · 08-03-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmiej

Hello good friend!

Hello! After reading some of the posts I feel like just exiting! I didn't realize how much false doctrine was out there. I mean, I knew it was out there, but now I'm actually seeing it.

ShanaBrown · 08-03-2009, 10:42 PM

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That's right, God draws all men to Himself, but free will allows us to either accept or reject

Hi Rejoicer, do you believe that we will have the free will to reject or accept Him when He subjects all things to Himself? God bless.

Rejoicer · 08-03-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Phazelwood

Neither DO you. You won't know till you reach where your predestined to go. According to your doctrine it is a lie to tell me you know, when the final outcome is not up to you. Hell could be awaiting you.

Whew! I don't know about you two, but I sure do know where I am going.

I believe the Bible is the true word of God. The Bible tells us that God loved us so much He gave His only son, that whosoever believeth in Him will have everlasting life.

I believe in Jesus, the bible tells me I will have everlasting life with Him, and that settles it for me. Whosoever means everybody has that opportunity. God did not leave anyone out - but you have to believe in Jesus!

Rejoicer · 08-03-2009, 10:54 PM

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Hi Rejoicer, do you believe that we will have the free will to reject or accept Him when He subjects all things to Himself? God bless.

We have the free will to reject Him when He calls you to Him. I invited Jesus into my heart, therefore I did not reject Him. Those that reject Him and die will not have another chance.