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Old 07-31-2009, 09:44 PM
 
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No its clear Alpha, you stated that God couldn't persuade all men. You have made God out to be less than Almighty because you believe some men can't be persuaded EVER.

So let me ask you again, Do you believe that some men will NEVER be able to be persuaded by God's ability to Persuade?

Paul
I believe that anyone who doesn't know Christ as their Savior will be lost eternally.

Twist that however you like.

Say it 'says this or that' like you do.

In other words, keep accusing me and you and Camps can keep blaspheming the God of the Bible.

Again, anyone who reads their bible can see this IF they believe their bible.

God calls....He doesn't drag us into the Kingdom against our will. Also, I'm assuming there's a reason you are using the word 'persuade' since you seem to like repeating it over and over. What specific verses of scripture are you trying to misrepresent?
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Old 07-31-2009, 09:45 PM
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I believe that anyone who doesn't know Christ as their Savior will be lost eternally.

Twist that however you like.

Say it 'says this or that' like you do.

In other words, keep accusing me and you and Camps can keep blaspheming the God of the Bible.

Again, anyone who reads their bible can see this IF they believe their bible.

God calls....He doesn't drag us into the Kingdom against our will. Also, I'm assuming there's a reason you are using the word 'persuade' since you seem to like repeating it over and over. What specific verses of scripture are you trying to misrepresent?
It is you that is saying that some men cannot be persuaded by God. Why don't you tell me what God can do to be more effective in Persuasion?

Paul
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Old 07-31-2009, 09:47 PM
 
Location: RI
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I believe that anyone who doesn't know Christ as their Savior will be lost eternally.

Twist that however you like.

Say it 'says this or that' like you do.

In other words, keep accusing me and you and Camps can keep blaspheming the God of the Bible.

Again, anyone who reads their bible can see this IF they believe their bible.

God calls....He doesn't drag us into the Kingdom against our will. Also, I'm assuming there's a reason you are using the word 'persuade' since you seem to like repeating it over and over. What specific verses of scripture are you trying to misrepresent?
How can the lost be lost eternally when Jesus came to seek and save the lost ? If this is not blaasphemy i do not know what is read the next line of my post

For the Son of Man came to seek and to save what was lost." Luke 19 verse 10

Is man really really good at playing hide and seek?.
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Old 07-31-2009, 09:47 PM
 
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Indeed I agree, and it speaks volumes.

Paul
It sure does:

I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him. But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. II Cor 11:2-4


(emphasis mine)
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Old 07-31-2009, 09:48 PM
 
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No, but sometimes man fails to respond.
Hi, if God cannot fail to persuade then no one can fail to respond!! God bless.
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Old 07-31-2009, 09:49 PM
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It sure does:

I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him. But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. II Cor 11:2-4


(emphasis mine)
There is definately another Jesus being preached if your telling me that there will be sinners that experience eternal torment since the Jesus of the Bible said He came for the purpose to destroy the works of the Devil which is sin. So if your telling me that their is going to be sinners for eternity then that means sin isn't destroyed and that is a very different Jesus than the one in my Bible.

Paul
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Old 07-31-2009, 09:49 PM
 
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Yes God can make anyone do anything and guess what, He can even change our wills! He is Sovereign and we aren't. God bless.
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Old 07-31-2009, 09:50 PM
 
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For the Son of Man came to seek and to save what was lost." Thank you Jesus
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Old 07-31-2009, 09:50 PM
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Hi, if God cannot fail to persuade then no one can fail to respond!! God bless.
Blessings!

Paul
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Old 07-31-2009, 09:51 PM
 
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It is you that is saying that some men cannot be persuaded by God. Why don't you tell me what God can do to be more effective in Persuasion?

Paul
God is perfect. He needs to do no more than what He does.

If a man rejects the Truth, that's not a reflection on God.

Did God somehow fail because He saved only a few from the flood?

Your view of my God is slanted.

From John 1:
He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God
(emphasis mine)
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