Who is a Christian? (Jehovah's Witness, beliefs, salvation, point of view)

[kdbrich]

Originally Posted by Phazelwood

You brought up the trinity, if I am not mistaken.

Trinity is not in the bible, then teaching it is unchristian.

The concepts are there. The Bible presents Jesus as God, the Father as God, and the Spirit as God...yet there is 1 God--not 3.

Yes, it's Biblical.

Originally Posted by pcamps

Jesus never said "right unless you agree to these doctrines don't bother calling yourself a christian".

However He did say "By this shall all men know you are my disciples that you have love one for another".

Does a disciple believe teachings contrary to their master?

[Reverend1111]

Originally Posted by Arkie4Life

My pastor has said many times that satan would leave a good rock concert to go to a church fight. How true!

Rev: When you look closely at what Jesus said at the Last Supper, Loving God and loving your neighbor summarizes the Ten Commandments.

You know, when it is all said and done and we have drawn our last earthly breath, the only thing that will truly matter is "WHAT WILL GOD SAY?"

I agree. And I try to live by the two commandments that Jesus gave. No need to muddle the brain any more than necessary trying to remember all ten!

And yes, God has the final say. However, God isn't religioius so it doesn't matter to Him if we are christian or not as long as we love.

[pcamps]

What are the teachings of the master

36"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" 37Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'[a] 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'[b] 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

[kdbrich]

Originally Posted by pcamps

What are the teachings of the master

36"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" 37Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'[a] 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'[b] 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

So do you not believe the rest of the NT is inspired?

Why did Jesus die if all we need is love?

[Shawn71]

please don't bring in the nicene creed and the trinity.

[Reverend1111]

Originally Posted by kdbrich

So do you not believe the rest of the NT is inspired?

Why did Jesus die if all we need is love?

So you think that LOVE is not inspiration enough? Love commands the universe. Love created the universe and each creature. GOD - IS - LOVE. Anything else is just mans ideas. Ideas are not truth.

[kdbrich]

Originally Posted by Shawn71

please don't bring in the nicene creed and the trinity.

I will bring in the Nicene Creed and the Trinity. They are basics of Christian doctrine.

If you don't hold to the doctrine of the Trinity you are anathema. You are not a Christian. That is just a fact.

Originally Posted by Reverend1111

So you think that LOVE is not inspiration enough? Love commands the universe. Love created the universe and each creature. GOD - IS - LOVE. Anything else is just mans ideas. Ideas are not truth.

I've been sincerely wrong when acting in love. You haven't?

[Shawn71]

Originally Posted by kdbrich

I will bring in the Nicene Creed and the Trinity. They are basics of Christian doctrine.

If you don't hold to the doctrine of the Trinity you are anathema. You are not a Christian. That is just a fact.



A lot of people can can be sincerely wrong in love.

No my friend I hold to this.


Isaiah 9:6 (King James Version)

6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

[pcamps]

Originally Posted by kdbrich

So do you not believe the rest of the NT is inspired?

Why did Jesus die if all we need is love?

Why are you asking me this ? . It's you who is saying unless someone believes a certain creed of doctrines their salvation is questionable.

So is alright to have all the right doctrines and not abide in His love , then call yourself a christian?.

Since when as it been love and some ?

[Reverend1111]

Originally Posted by kdbrich

I've been sincerely wrong when acting in love. You haven't?

Then it wasn't love. Love, Divine Love of God, has no opposite and is never wrong.