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Old 08-14-2009, 11:03 AM
 
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Are mormons, jehovah's witnesses, fundamentalist Bible Christians, universalists, etc all Christians, despite having diametrically opposed beliefs?

I don't understand the hang-up some folks have with being told that they are not a Christian when they deny the basic doctrines.
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Old 08-14-2009, 11:08 AM
 
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The American Heritage Dictionary defines a Christian as "one who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or lives the lifestyle based on the life and teachings of Jesus; one who lives according to the teachings of Jesus.


From Wikipedia:

Active Christians: Committed to attending church, Bible reading, and sharing their faith that salvation comes through Jesus Christ. They also accept leadership positions in their church.[8]
Professing Christians: Are also committed to "accepting Christ as Savior and Lord" as the key to being a Christian, but focus on personal relationships with God and Jesus more than on church, Bible reading or sharing faith.[8]
Liturgical Christians: High level of spiritual activity, mainly expressed by attending and recognizing the authority of the church, and by serving in it or in the community.[8]
Private Christians: Believe in God and in doing good things, but not within a church context. In the American survey, this was the largest and youngest segment.[8]
Cultural Christians: Do not view Jesus as essential to salvation. They are the least likely to align their beliefs or practices with biblical teachings or to attend church. They favor a universality theology that sees many ways to God
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Old 08-14-2009, 11:09 AM
 
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The American Heritage Dictionary defines a Christian as "one who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or lives the lifestyle based on the life and teachings of Jesus; one who lives according to the teachings of Jesus.


From Wikipedia:

Active Christians: Committed to attending church, Bible reading, and sharing their faith that salvation comes through Jesus Christ. They also accept leadership positions in their church.[8]
Professing Christians: Are also committed to "accepting Christ as Savior and Lord" as the key to being a Christian, but focus on personal relationships with God and Jesus more than on church, Bible reading or sharing faith.[8]
Liturgical Christians: High level of spiritual activity, mainly expressed by attending and recognizing the authority of the church, and by serving in it or in the community.[8]
Private Christians: Believe in God and in doing good things, but not within a church context. In the American survey, this was the largest and youngest segment.[8]
Cultural Christians: Do not view Jesus as essential to salvation. They are the least likely to align their beliefs or practices with biblical teachings or to attend church. They favor a universality theology that sees many ways to God

Since wikipedia wasn't around 1900 years ago I'd rather not use it as a source. Let's base this off of what the early church taught.
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Old 08-14-2009, 11:09 AM
 
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Seems to me kd that a christian doesn't thave to read or adhere to the bible.
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Old 08-14-2009, 11:10 AM
 
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sounds more like you don't feel they're a christian if they don't believe your personal doctrine.
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Old 08-14-2009, 11:10 AM
 
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Seems to me kd that a christian doesn't thave to read or adhere to the bible.
a Christian should adhere to a common set of doctrines that are contained within the Bible.

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sounds more like you don't feel they're a christian if they don't believe your personal doctrine.

Not MY DOCTRINES, but there are some core doctrines that are necessary. just as there are a set of core doctrines to be called muslim.
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Old 08-14-2009, 11:11 AM
 
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So, let me get this straight. You want a definition of Christianity but it has to be on your terms? Seems kinda selfish to me.
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Old 08-14-2009, 11:12 AM
 
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Did I say that specifically? This is more about the identity of who is/is not a Christian. If you'd like to tackle that question in another thread I'll present my answer there.
That question would be a part of answering your question in the OP

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I don't understand the hang-up some folks have with being told that they are not a Christian when they deny the basic doctrines.
It is a reasonable question here in order to help you understand. So answer the question.

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Do you mean to say that a non christian goes to hell for all eternity?
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Old 08-14-2009, 11:13 AM
 
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So, let me get this straight. You want a definition of Christianity but it has to be on your terms? Seems kinda selfish to me.
Can you explain how we SHOULDN'T have a common set of doctrines? The early church certainly did.

If other religions have doctrines, why shouldn't Christianity?
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Old 08-14-2009, 11:13 AM
 
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a Christian should adhere to a common set of doctrines that are contained within the Bible.




Not MY DOCTRINES, but there are some core doctrines that are necessary. just as there are a set of core doctrines to be called muslim.

Tell us then what the core doctrines are. Specifically the original ones that the apostles wrote, the ones that aren't edited.
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