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09-25-2009, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by antredd
Is it just me? But, I am finding it quite interesting that some Christians think that divorcing an abusive spouse and getting remarried justifies the second marriage. The Word of God should be our sole authority in regard to when a christian should divorce or separate from his or her spouse. I don't want to harp on this too much.
But I strongly feel that the Lord has led me to start this post for anyone who wants to dialogue about this topic especially when someone gave me a rep, but admonished me for agreeing with another poster that this person feels is not a true christian. All that I am trying to be is obedient to God's word as the Holy Spirit has helped me understand it.
Let me answer my own question before anyone misinterprets what my intent is. I don't think anyone should stay in a marriage if his or her life is in constant danger and if that person's spouse is abusing them. With that said, the bible makes it clear that no Christian has any scriptural grounds (unless it's the death of his or her spouse) to freely marry again.
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I agree!
If your spouse is abusive, they have forsaken the vow to "love, honor and cherish". Where is love in hitting or honor in degrading with curses?
But, should the spouse that is abused go and get married again? No, the bible is clear that they should not.
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09-25-2009, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Nikk
I agree!
If your spouse is abusive, they have forsaken the vow to "love, honor and cherish". Where is love in hitting or honor in degrading with curses?
But, should the spouse that is abused go and get married again? No, the bible is clear that they should not.
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So the abused spouse because she flee's the abuser she is held to being single for the remainder of her life ?.
Do you realize how absurd this sounds ?.
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09-25-2009, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by pcamps
So the abused spouse because she flee's the abuser she is held to being single for the remainder of her life ?.
Do you realize how absurd this sounds ?.
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Technically that IS what the bible says. It is ridiculous. Christians "sin" every day. I don't believe that they don't. Feeling hatred for someone for just a second would be a sin. Why the big deal over this one?! What's god gonna do if someone remarries? Lightning strike? Hell? Please spare us. Nowhere in the bible does it say you'll go to hell for remarrying. Pcamps you at least are a realistic Christian! Thumbs up for you. 
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09-25-2009, 05:32 AM
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June remembers reading a post on this forum at one time that said "There is no hierarchy to sin."
If June accepted that at face value without challenging it, she wonders how that would impact everyone in the overall context of not just this thread, but context of real life abusive situations resulting in real life harm.
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09-25-2009, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by DaniMae1
Technically that IS what the bible says. It is ridiculous. Christians "sin" every day. I don't believe that they don't. Feeling hatred for someone for just a second would be a sin. Why the big deal over this one?! What's god gonna do if someone remarries? Lightning strike? Hell? Please spare us. Nowhere in the bible does it say you'll go to hell for remarrying. Pcamps you at least are a realistic Christian! Thumbs up for you. 
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Are you serious? Have you read the bible?
Mat 5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
Mat 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Mat 19:3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
Mat 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made [them] at the beginning made them male and female,
Mat 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
Mat 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
Mat 19:7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
Mat 19:8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
Mat 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
So if you divorce and marry another for ANY reason other than fornication you are in sin. You commit adultery and so does the person that marries you. So what does the bible say about adulterers? They will not inherit the kingdom of God. Now you know the bible does teach it 
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09-25-2009, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DaltonG
Are you serious? Have you read the bible?
Mat 5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
Mat 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Mat 19:3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
Mat 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made [them] at the beginning made them male and female,
Mat 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
Mat 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
Mat 19:7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
Mat 19:8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
Mat 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
So if you divorce and marry another for ANY reason other than fornication you are in sin. You commit adultery and so does the person that marries you. So what does the bible say about adulterers? They will not inherit the kingdom of God. Now you know the bible does teach it 
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Nice to see you believe in sharing the same mercy God has shown you in your own life 
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09-25-2009, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by pcamps
Nice to see you believe in sharing the same mercy God has shown you in your own life 
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I am showing the same Truth that God has shown me in my life through His holy word. Jesus said we shall know the Truth and the Truth shall make you free. God was merciful enough to reveal His will on this matter to mankind in the bible. That is the mercy I am showing friend.
Jesus said those words in Matt. 5 and 19, not me, you should take it up with Him.
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09-25-2009, 08:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pcamps
So the abused spouse because she flee's the abuser she is held to being single for the remainder of her life ?.
Do you realize how absurd this sounds ?.
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I agree with you pcamps but not because it sounds absurd because the bible is not based on our standards but because it is not scriptural. The bible does say, it is preferred that we not remarry but no where does it say, it's a sin to remarry after our spouse abandoned their role in the marriage.
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09-25-2009, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Fundamentalist
I agree with you pcamps but not because it sounds absurd but because it is not scriptural. The bible does say, it is preferred that we not remarry but no where does it say, it's a sin to remarry after our spouse abandoned their role in the marriage.
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You must have skipped my post a few before this let me repost it for you:
Are you serious? Have you read the bible?
Mat 5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
Mat 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Mat 19:3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
Mat 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made [them] at the beginning made them male and female,
Mat 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
Mat 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
Mat 19:7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
Mat 19:8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
Mat 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
So if you divorce and marry another for ANY reason other than fornication you are in sin. You commit adultery and so does the person that marries you. So what does the bible say about adulterers? They will not inherit the kingdom of God. Now you know the bible does teach it 
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09-25-2009, 08:29 AM
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Location: Pike Road, Alabama
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Originally Posted by antredd
Is it just me? But, I am finding it quite interesting that some Christians think that divorcing an abusive spouse and getting remarried justifies the second marriage. The Word of God should be our sole authority in regard to when a christian should divorce or separate from his or her spouse. I don't want to harp on this too much.
But I strongly feel that the Lord has led me to start this post for anyone who wants to dialogue about this topic especially when someone gave me a rep, but admonished me for agreeing with another poster that this person feels is not a true christian. All that I am trying to be is obedient to God's word as the Holy Spirit has helped me understand it.
Let me answer my own question before anyone misinterprets what my intent is. I don't think anyone should stay in a marriage if his or her life is in constant danger and if that person's spouse is abusing them. With that said, the bible makes it clear that no Christian has any scriptural grounds (unless it's the death of his or her spouse) to freely marry again.
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You're wrong...infidelity is also grounds for divorce and remarriage.
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