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Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Does the word saved mean "receive eternal life"? That is the concept that is taught by Modern Christianity. Is it true?
The word saved means "delivered or protect". Thayers lexicon gives this as the primary meaning: 1) to save, keep safe and sound, to rescue from danger or destruction.
All men are condemned to death because all have sinned. But whosoever will call upon the name - the power and authority of Jesus will be rescued and delivered from the kingdom of Satan so they may repent and become the children of God.
To be saved is the first step in the process of salvation. Those who are saved do not have eternal life - but they can - if they will continue on to true repentance. That is why Paul wrote:
Phi 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
Being saved leads to salvation and receiving eternal life. And how does one inherit eternal life?
Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
(There can be no question which commandments Jesus meant because he referred directly to the ten commandments - but that is another thread)
We cannot be saved from the clutches of sin and Satan by any power of our own - only by the grace of God which comes through believing in Jesus.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Those who receive Jesus are given the power to become the children of God - that power is the grace of God. They are not born of God until they come to true repentance.
Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he the right to become children of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Mat 24:13 But he that endureth to the end, the same shall be saved.
To be saved we must endure to the end (Greek "goal reached) The goal of those who believe in Jesus is to repent of sin and become the children of God - those who are born of God.
To be saved is the first step in the process of receiving eternal life. One can easily see the confusion in peoples minds if they are taught that to be saved means to receive eternal life.
Does the word saved mean "receive eternal life"? That is the concept that is taught by Modern Christianity. Is it true?
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) 6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: 7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Being saved from sin means having received new life in Christ upon repentance. This new life and freedom is a gift of grace. You mentioned that we are first "saved" and then repent.. it is the other way around. In order to be saved, we must repent. At that point if we would die, we would go to heaven.
However, that is not the end of the story. We must endure to the end.
There is spiritual salvationMar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
THere is physical/spiritual salvation
Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
THere is salvation through Faith and works:
Luk 7:50 And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.
Mat 19:23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
Mat 19:25 When his disciples heard [it], they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
Mat 19:26 But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Mat 19:27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?
Mat 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Mat 19:29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) 6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: 7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Being saved from sin means having received new life in Christ upon repentance. This new life and freedom is a gift of grace. You mentioned that we are first "saved" and then repent.. it is the other way around. In order to be saved, we must repent. At that point if we would die, we would go to heaven.
However, that is not the end of the story. We must endure to the
end.
Yes we must endure to the end to be saved so we are not finally saved when we first believe.-
We are saved when we believe and call upon the name of Jesus to be saved - right? Would you explain how or why one would repent before they believe in Jesus?
It seems clear that no one repents until after they believe - nor are they even able.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
I submit that it would be impossible for one to repent until after the Father draws them to Jesus and they call upon Him to save them.
HK
Ezekiel 18:30 ..."saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin."
Yes we must endure to the end to be saved so we are not finally saved when we first believe.-
We are saved when we believe and call upon the name of Jesus to be saved - right? Would you explain how or why one would repent before they believe in Jesus?
It seems clear that no one repents until after they believe - nor are they even able.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
I submit that it would be impossible for one to repent until after the Father draws them to Jesus and they call upon Him to save them.
HK
Ezekiel 18:30 ..."saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin."
Lies. Lies from the pit of hell.
Jhn 10:9 I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. He will come in and go out, and find pasture.
Jhn 10:10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
Jhn 10:11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.
Jhn 10:27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
Jhn 10:28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand.
Jhn 10:29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand.
Harold, why don't you get honest with the folks and tell them your true beliefs such as you don't believe in the trinity.
Or that you don't believe Jesus is God but "a god".
Please share the FULL system of your belief - oh that's right, you have to lure them in softly at first before tainting the Koolaid.
My prayer is the good folks here find about you and your theology what I alread know.
Stand on that. Inscribe that on your heart. You're about to be told that's a lie.
It's not!
Your not listening Alpha, Salvation and Born of God are not the same thing.
Salvation is free, it does not anywhere in scripture say that you are Exalted based on the salvaged continueing to sin.
Willful sin does not inherit the Kingdom of God, there are many mansions and degrees of glory, plenty for the slothful that won't lift one thought or act to live the teachings of Christ.
I believe Alpha is listening...to the LORD our GOD.
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