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The term 'spiritual' as applied to the resurrected body,simply means that the resurrected body does not have the old sin nature that corrupted the mortal body that man was born into the world with. And therefore the resurrected body is not fleshly(sinful- the sin nature)
The glorifed physical body recognises that fact that the resurrected body is a body of flesh and bone. (Luke24:39.) And it further recognizes the fact that the resurrected body has abilites that our present bodies don't have. (Luke 24:31,36; John 20:10,14,19,26-28) The resurrected body is a literal, physical body that has changed from mortal and corruptable, to immortal and incorruptable, and is therefore said to be spiritual.
Ok you just stated that it is a false belief that God was once a man, but you believe that he becomes a man?
How does that work? Which part of the false belief is contrary to your belief? You cannot prove that God has no body then say that Jesus (who has a body) is God.
You disprove and prove that God has a body
I will try to reduce this to kindergarden level simplicity.
God was not once a man who somehow became God. He has always been God. (Isa. 43:10-13; 44:6; 45:21-22; 46:9.)
Jesus Christ who is one of the members of the eternal and infinite Godhead (Trinity), then came into the world and took upon Himself the form of a man to fulfill God's plan of salvation for man. Phil.2:5-8. (Doctrines of Kenosis and the Hypostatic union.) You have here a verse that says that Jesus Christ is God and that He came into the human race as a man. You cannot deny this and claim to follow Christ. In so doing, you deceive yourself.
I will try to reduce this to kindergarden level simplicity.
God was not once a man who somehow became God. He has always been God. (Isa. 43:10-13; 44:6; 45:21-22; 46:9.)
Jesus Christ who is one of the members of the eternal and infinite Godhead (Trinity), then came into the world and took upon Himself the form of a man to fulfill God's plan of salvation for man. Phil.2:5-8. (Doctrines of Kenosis and the Hypostatic union.) You have here a verse that says that Jesus Christ is God and that He came into the human race as a man. You cannot deny this and claim to follow Christ. In so doing, you deceive yourself.
Mike,
Exactly so. It is impossible to claim the title of Christian and believe Jesus isn't anying other than God....John 1:1
I will try to reduce this to kindergarden level simplicity.
God was not once a man who somehow became God. He has always been God. (Isa. 43:10-13; 44:6; 45:21-22; 46:9.)
Jesus Christ who is one of the members of the eternal and infinite Godhead (Trinity), then came into the world and took upon Himself the form of a man to fulfill God's plan of salvation for man. Phil.2:5-8. (Doctrines of Kenosis and the Hypostatic union.) You have here a verse that says that Jesus Christ is God and that He came into the human race as a man. You cannot deny this and claim to follow Christ. In so doing, you deceive yourself.
But you said God cannot have a body. If God was not with body in the beginning then Jesus is not God for he was not with God in the beginning.
The only part of God known to enter bodies is the Holy Spirit....God's spirit.
Jesus is a man with God's spirit...
Nehemiah 9:20
You gave your good Spirit to instruct them. You did not withhold your manna from their mouths, and you gave them water for their thirst.
Nehemiah 9:30
For many years you were patient with them. By your Spirit you admonished them through your prophets. Yet they paid no attention, so you handed them over to the neighboring peoples.
Job 32:8
But it is the spiritin aman, the breath of the Almighty, that gives him understanding.
Isaiah 57:16
I will not accuse forever, nor will I always be angry, for then the spirit of man would grow faint before me— the breath of man that I have created.
Matthew 12:32
Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
Luke 12:10
And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.
John 1:33
I would not have known him, except that the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, 'The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is he who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.'
John 9:35
Jesus heard that they had thrown him out, and when he found him, he said, "Do you believe in the Son of Man?"
Romans 8:6
The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace;
1 Corinthians 2:11
For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
2 Peter 1:21
For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
It is the spirit of God that works in and through men. The Spirit of God is not the messenger but the message. The word. Jesus was the messenger who baptized with the Spirit of God.
If you were responding to my messages you would be addressing the topic not just displaying your ignorance about LDS beliefs and slamming us.
By the way, contrary to the way you portray yourself as a spokesperson for Christianity; with the exception of our belief in Jesus Christ, there's no such thing as Christians united in one common belief. It's not Christians vs Mormons or any other denomination, it's something like 38,000 denominations of Christians, most with some differing beliefs but all accepting the Christ.
Hijacking?
You mean like coping a post from a this thread and putting it in your "Ask a Mormon thread" giving it the appearence that the person actually posted it instead of referencing how you obtained it .....
I will try to reduce this to kindergarden level simplicity.
God was not once a man who somehow became God. He has always been God. (Isa. 43:10-13; 44:6; 45:21-22; 46:9.)
Jesus Christ who is one of the members of the eternal and infinite Godhead (Trinity), then came into the world and took upon Himself the form of a man to fulfill God's plan of salvation for man. Phil.2:5-8. (Doctrines of Kenosis and the Hypostatic union.) You have here a verse that says that Jesus Christ is God and that He came into the human race as a man. You cannot deny this and claim to follow Christ. In so doing, you deceive yourself.
God has always been God . . . but the human species was producing spirit (consciousness) that was NOT compatible with God and was unlikely ever to be so. God required a human being to produce human consciousness that is compatible. Jesus took the Holy Spirit (consciousness) of God into a fully human body and brain (NOT God) to elevate ALL human consciousness into resonance with God THROUGH His Holy Spirit with love for us ALL (Grace). Since consciousness (Spirit) is ALL that we or God truly are . . . the distinctions among God, His Holy Spirit, and Jesus's Human form of God's consciousness are meaningless . . . they are ALL God's consciousness = God. if you have the MIND of God you ARE God . . . form is irrelevant because ALL that matters is spiritual . . . not physical or carnal distinctions.
The complexity and theological rigamarole presented by Mike is man-made. Its ancient authors and subsequent recorders and expounders produced these ruminations and rationalizations out of ignorance and carnal mindedness. The pious and pompous human egotism elevated the precepts and doctrines of men . . . AS IF their flawed understanding of the "milk" were "solid food." Obviously . . if it wasn't highly complex and theological it couldn't possibly be a worthy explanation of God.
Where Is Enoch? ENOCH was "translated." Where did he go? Was he immediately taken to heaven? NO! Because Jesus Himself said: "No man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man" (John 3:13). Here are Jesus’ own words that no man, except Himself, had ascended into heaven!
And how did He know? Why, He came from there!
Then where is Enoch? Let’s see what the Bible says. WHERE are ENOCH and ELIJAH?
The complexity and theological rigamarole presented by Mike is man-made. .
Didn't you read how justamere10 doesn't like slamming, but slamming Christians is ok.
Mystic...Just checking if you're consistant,
Being resurrected to progress to become a god of your own planet, man made "complexity and theological rigamarole" or not?
You are wrong about that...they died just like the rest of us.
Genesis 5:23So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years. 24Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him.
This verse does not say that Enoch didn't die. It is pure speculation on our part that he did not physically die. All is says is that God took him...and that leads me to believe he died.
2 Kings 2:11As they were going along and talking, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire and horses of fire which separated the two of them. And Elijah went up by a whirlwind to heaven.
2 Chr 21:12Then a letter came to him from Elijah the prophet saying, "Thus says the LORD God of your father David, 'Because you have not walked in the ways of Jehoshaphat your father and the ways of Asa king of Judah, 13but have walked in the way of the kings of Israel, and have caused Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem to play the harlot as the house of Ahab played the harlot, and you have also killed your brothers, your own family, who were better than you, 14behold, the LORD is going to strike your people, your sons, your wives and all your possessions with a great calamity;
How could Elijah been taken into heave and then send a letter later on...this exact occurrence happens in the NT...where an apostle is taken to another place on earth, another location...not where God resides. Please keep in mind that OT Jews and their use of heaven and heavens is different from ours...this is where confusion can ensue when we try to place our meaning on it.
Jesus was pretty clear that no one had ever been to heaven except HIM:
John 3:13"No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man.
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