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Old 09-24-2009, 09:42 PM
 
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I hear over and over again from those who believe that God will not cast out, forever, those who are found to be in sin...who have read and heard the Word of God stating so, but have CHOSEN to ignore His warnings!

Please...tell me how you all can just pass right over and ignore completely, what the Word of God says all through the Bible...you either carelessly, do not crack open the Bible at all...or you have no idea their even IS a God...or that what He says, you twist to mean what you want it to say, instead of receiving it the way He meant it to be received!

Job 34:10-12
"Therefore, hear me, you men of understanding:
.....far be it from God that He should do
............wickedness,
.....and from the Almighty that He should do
..........wrong.

For according to the work of a man He will repay
..........him,
...and according to his ways He will make it befall him.

Of a truth, God will not do wickedly,
...and the Almighty will not pervert justice.


Psalms 5:4-6
For You are not a God who takes pleasure in
.......wickedness,
Nor shall evil dwell with You.
The boastful shall not stand in Your sight;
You hate all workers of iniquity.
You shall destroy those who speak falsehood;
The Lord abhors the bloodstirsty and deceitful man.

Psalms 6:8
Depart from Me, all you workers of iniquity;

Psalms 14:4
Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge,
Who eat up my people as they eat bread,
And do not call on the Lord?

Psalms 28:3-5
Do not drag me off with the wicked,
...with the workers of evil,
who speak peace with their neighbors
...while evil is in their hearts.
Give to them according to their work
...and according to the evil of their deeds;
give to them according to the work of their hands;
...render to them their due reward.
Because they do not regard the works of the Lord
...or the work of His hands,
he will tear them down and build them up no
..........more.

Psalms 36:12
There the evildoers lie fallen;
...they are thrust down, unable to rise

Psalms 37:1
Fret not yourself because of evildoers;
...be not envious of wrongdoers!
For they will soon fade like the grass
...and whither like the green herb.

Psalms 92:5-9
How great are your works, O LORD!
...Your thoughts are very deep!
The stupid man cannot know;
...the fool cannot understand this:
that though the wicked sprout like grass
...and all evildoers flourish,
they are doomed to destruction forever.
For behold, Your enemies, O LORD,
...for behold, Your enemies shall perish;
...all evildoers shall be scattered.

Psalms 94:1-7,23
O LORD, God of vengeance,
O God of vengeance, shine forth!
Rise up, O Judge of the earth;
...repay to the proud what they deserve!
O LORD, how long shall the wicked,
...how long shall the wicked exult?
They pour out their arrogant words;
...all the evildoers boast.
They crush Your people O LORD,
...and afflict Your heritage.
They kill the widow and the sojourner,
...and murder the fatherless;
and they say, "The LORD does not see;
...the God of Jacob does not perceive."

Understand, O dullest of the people!
...Fools, when will you be wise?
He who planted the ear, does He not hear?
He who formed the eye, does he not see?

Psalms 125:5
But those who turn aside to their crooked ways
...the LORD will lead away with evildoers!

Luke 13:22-28 "The Narrow Way"
And He went through the cities and villages, teaching and journeying toward Jerusalem.
Then one said to Him, "Lord, are there few who are saved?"
And He said to them, Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able.
When once the Master of the house has risen up and shut the door, and you begin to stand outside and knock at the door, saying, 'LORD, LORD, open for us,' and He will answer and say to you, 'I do not know you, where are you from,' then you will begin to say, 'We ate and drank in Your presence, and You taught in our streets.'
But He will say, 'I tell you I do not know you, where you are from, Depart from Me, all you workers of iniquity.'
There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the Kingdom of God, and you yourself thrust out.


...now...go ahead...chop this up like you always do!!!

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Old 09-24-2009, 09:48 PM
 
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Jn 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Hb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
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Old 09-24-2009, 09:49 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Originally Posted by Verna Perry View Post
I hear over and over again from those who believe that God will not cast out, forever, those who are found to be in sin...who have read and heard the Word of God stating so, but have CHOSEN to ignore His warnings!

Please...tell me how you all can just pass right over and ignore completely, what the Word of God says all through the Bible...you either carelessly, do not crack open the Bible at all...or you have no idea their even IS a God...or that what He says, you twist to mean what you want it to say, instead of receiving it the way He meant it to be received!

Job 34:10-12
"Therefore, hear me, you men of understanding:
.....far be it from God that He should do
............wickedness,
.....and from the Almighty that He should do
..........wrong.

For according to the work of a man He will repay
..........him,
...and according to his ways He will make it befall him.

Of a truth, God will not do wickedly,
...and the Almighty will not pervert justice.


Psalms 5:4-6
For You are not a God who takes pleasure in
.......wickedness,
Nor shall evil dwell with You.
The boastful shall not stand in Your sight;
You hate all workers of iniquity.
You shall destroy those who speak falsehood;
The Lord abhors the bloodstirsty and deceitful man.

Psalms 6:8
Depart from Me, all you workers of iniquity;

Psalms 14:4
Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge,
Who eat up my people as they eat bread,
And do not call on the Lord?

Psalms 28:3-5
Do not drag me off with the wicked,
...with the workers of evil,
who speak peace with their neighbors
...while evil is in their hearts.
Give to them according to their work
...and according to the evil of their deeds;
give to them according to the work of their hands;
...render to them their due reward.
Because they do not regard the works of the Lord
...or the work of His hands,
he will tear them down and build them up no
..........more.

Psalms 36:12
There the evildoers lie fallen;
...they are thrust down, unable to rise

Psalms 37:1
Fret not yourself because of evildoers;
...be not envious of wrongdoers!
For they will soon fade like the grass
...and whither like the green herb.

Psalms 92:5-9
How great are your works, O LORD!
...Your thoughts are very deep!
The stupid man cannot know;
...the fool cannot understand this:
that though the wicked sprout like grass
...and all evildoers flourish,
they are doomed to destruction forever.
For behold, Your enemies, O LORD,
...for behold, Your enemies shall perish;
...all evildoers shall be scattered.

Psalms 94:1-7,23
O LORD, God of vengeance,
O God of vengeance, shine forth!
Rise up, O Judge of the earth;
...repay to the proud what they deserve!
O LORD, how long shall the wicked,
...how long shall the wicked exult?
They pour out their arrogant words;
...all the evildoers boast.
They crush Your people O LORD,
...and afflict Your heritage.
They kill the widow and the sojourner,
...and murder the fatherless;
and they say, "The LORD does not see;
...the God of Jacob does not perceive."

Understand, O dullest of the people!
...Fools, when will you be wise?
He who planted the ear, does He not hear?
He who formed the eye, does he not see?

Psalms 125:5
But those who turn aside to their crooked ways
...the LORD will lead away with evildoers!

Luke 13:22-28 "The Narrow Way"
And He went through the cities and villages, teaching and journeying toward Jerusalem.
Then one said to Him, "Lord, are there few who are saved?"
And He said to them, Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able.
When once the Master of the house has risen up and shut the door, and you begin to stand outside and knock at the door, saying, 'LORD, LORD, open for us,' and He will answer and say to you, 'I do not know you, where are you from,' then you will begin to say, 'We ate and drank in Your presence, and You taught in our streets.'
But He will say, 'I tell you I do not know you, where you are from, Depart from Me, all you workers of iniquity.'
There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the Kingdom of God, and you yourself thrust out.


...now...go ahead...chop this up like you always do!!!
Honestly, blind eyes can't or don't want to see the truth. What you have provided is correct and right, but like you said, people with their own doctrine walk to their own beat.

I don't want anyone to go to Hell, but God says other wise, and I trust what He says. The funny thing to me, I had a UR, tell me, How do you know that Jesus is going to do what He said He was going to do. NOw that is denial. LOL, that is the first. But I had to say, you know what, if I didn't have a leg to stand on either, I would have to say the same.

Then I even had the same person say to me, HOw do you know that the ones that Jesus sends out of His sight, into Hell, is not going to then undue what He just did? I was cracking up? I was like are you serious, is this your arguement from the UR standpoint. Then I later found out that they were a Internet UR. LOL.

God says not to add or take away from His Word, but I see that UR, all their what if.

So, I simply asked, where does it say that God will bring them out of Hell to the New Heaven and New Earth. Well, I only got that I was twisting scripture?

Then on top of that, UR, try to throw that we need to go back and read the Jewish bible, little did, that person know, I actually can read that bible. Why tell someone to go back into the Jewish bible, when the person can't read out of it. So, the UR, argument is well I say, so sad, that they try to twist God Words to make them feel better about what is going to come.

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Old 09-24-2009, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Dixie's Sunny Shore
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Right on target, as usual, Verna. The candy coating of God's word to fit what people want it to say is so commonplace of late. The Bible makes this subject so clear, but people would rather have Oprah's view that everyone will, somehow, end up in heaven. The devil wants everyone to believe this lie. Even many preachers are doing away with talking about this subject. Get right (with God) or get left (behind).
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Old 09-24-2009, 09:54 PM
 
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Hell worshipers ... Gotta love em ... They just couldn't live without their eternal torture.

So what are believers in the word of Reconciliation evildoers? And you are righteous and special right? Only people like you does god love and only people who believe the way you do will be saved from your eternal torture right? I love you too ... God bless you ...
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Old 09-24-2009, 10:02 PM
 
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You know the bible is like a mirror, it reveals the inner self. What you see in there when you read it is a reflection of your own soul. Some see condemnation and death for ever, some see love and life and the liberty of Christ for everyone ... What do you see?
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Old 09-24-2009, 10:05 PM
 
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Jesus will accomplish his purpose 100%.
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Old 09-24-2009, 10:07 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Originally Posted by Ironmaw1776 View Post
Hell worshipers ... Gotta love em ... They just couldn't live without their eternal torture.

So what are believers in the word of Reconciliation evildoers? And you are righteous and special right? Only people like you does god love and only people who believe the way you do will be saved from your eternal torture right? I love you too ... God bless you ...
I don't believe that God only love certain people, but I do believe what He says in His Word. That all will not be with Him. Not my Words.

Matthew 7:21-23

"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

Luke 13:22-28

And He went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem. Then one said to Him, “Lord, are there few who are saved?”
And He said to them, “Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able. When once the Master of the house has risen up and shut the door, and you begin to stand outside and knock at the door, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open for us,’ and He will answer and say to you, ‘I do not know you, where you are from,’ then you will begin to say, ‘We ate and drank in Your presence, and You taught in our streets.’ But He will say, ‘I tell you I do not know you, where you are from. Depart from Me, all you workers of iniquity.’ There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, and yourselves thrust out.
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Old 09-24-2009, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Dixie's Sunny Shore
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Hell worshipers ... Gotta love em ... They just couldn't live without their eternal torture.

So what are believers in the word of Reconciliation evildoers? And you are righteous and special right? Only people like you does god love and only people who believe the way you do will be saved from your eternal torture right? I love you too ... God bless you ...
Wow, what insight. Nobody here claims to be special. Hell worshipers? I take it you subscribe to a "no hell" theory? God loves everyone not just us: For God so loved the world. He sent his son to die for you just as much as anyone on this forum. We are no better than anyone else nor do we claim to be.

As far as saying only people like us will be spared from hell...Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shall be saved. It's an individual choice for all, not just special people on this forum. God bless you, too. Sincerely, not sarcastically, I say this.
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Old 09-24-2009, 10:10 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Jesus will accomplish his purpose 100%.
Yes, Jesus will do as He pleases.

So, what is your take on what He says about this?

Luke 13:22-28

And He went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem. Then one said to Him, “Lord, are there few who are saved?”
And He said to them, “Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able. When once the Master of the house has risen up and shut the door, and you begin to stand outside and knock at the door, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open for us,’ and He will answer and say to you, ‘I do not know you, where you are from,’ then you will begin to say, ‘We ate and drank in Your presence, and You taught in our streets.’ But He will say, ‘I tell you I do not know you, where you are from. Depart from Me, all you workers of iniquity.’ There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, and yourselves thrust out.

Do, we just ignore this and think that Jesus didn't mean what He was saying? I am not looking for opinion, but what you actually see in this scripture or how do you interpret it in your mind?
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