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Old 10-03-2009, 11:08 AM
 
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Unbelief is a sin that is never forgiven. People will try to seek but will never find the truth.
If you truly seek, you will find. The good shepard finds the lost sheep.
God is not a man. He does not need books. This is all figurative speech like a lot of descriptions in the bible. Basically, those who God preordained are saved in this age and giving life hereafter. Some saved and brought to life in the age to come. That is the message. This book or that book? The good news is that Jesus is the savior of ALL. He is the savior of the world. There is no other name under heaven in which men can be saved. In the end God will restore his creation and be all in all.
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:44 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Spm62.
Jesus paid for the sins of all, but all don't believe he his the Saviour.

Jesus says: "he that believes and is baptised will be saved, he that believes not will be damned"
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you say: "In the end God will restore his creation and be all in all."

Jesus wins
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Spm62.
Jesus paid for the sins of all, but all don't believe he his the Saviour.

Jesus says: "he that believes and is baptised will be saved, he that believes not will be damned"
vs.
you say: "In the end God will restore his creation and be all in all."

Jesus wins
Again you miss the point that if Jesus paid for the sins of all there is no other payment left to give.

If those who don't believe are excluded from the payment then there is no other way for their salvation.

In other words... If someone paid your fine for a crime you committed and you didn't believe they did.. would you pay the fine again? Would the fine still exist even if you tried to pay it over and over?
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