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Old 03-03-2010, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Florida
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trickyD...

The one thing we in the christian church want to do is to reach out to the sinner.

The problem is that far too many people feel that they have committed too many sins, to ever be forgiven of them all.
The message we have to share with them is that all your sins can be forgiven!

Just confess your sins and receive God's forgiveness.

The number of sins you have in your past is moot.
I love that...Receive God's forgiveness!
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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First of all, I believe that Jesus Christ existed, was the son of God and died on the cross to save man from his sins.

The person who accused me of being a heretic is supposed to be a Christian. She certainly has not convinced me of wanting to break bread with her by casting judgment on me.
You're a Christian, but I have my doubts about your accuser.
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Old 03-06-2010, 11:47 AM
 
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Many people live out their faith different ways. There are those types that like to label you just because you don't believe just like they do. A lot of times, they have a twisted understanding of what scripture says (we all do to some extent) and they a lot of times talk out of self righteousness and pride more so than love and concern (we all get that way) a sort of holier than thou approach.

That's when they get to assuming things about you and saying the dreaded "You're not Christian!" or "You're going to hell!" line.

Whether they're saved or not, that's between them and God.
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Old 03-06-2010, 03:08 PM
 
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1. Yes, you are a Christian.
2. So is the person you were talking to. She is also a narrow-minded bigot.
she has also brought God's judgment onto herself now that she has taken it upon herself to judge YOU.God will judge her in the same manner she has judged you,so she should be ready for that.
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Old 03-06-2010, 09:10 PM
 
Location: In God's Hand
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First of all, I believe that Jesus Christ existed, was the son of God and died on the cross to save man from his sins. However, I recently got into a discussion with someone with whom I disagreed with on whether or not a person with no knowledge of the Bible or Christ could achieve salvation. The scenario was, "could a person who lived on a remote island somewhere, who lived a good, honest life (just as instructed in the words of the Bible), but who had no access to the Word of God still go to heaven?"
I had heard of a Catholic priest that spoke of his missionary trip to some very friendly tribe in some backwater place in the world and came back writing a book on that subject by which I had to wonder why did he not preach the Gospel to them anyway?

I do wonder if that scenario you have picked up was from this poor excuse of a missionary directly or indirectly as many would expound on his trip in one form or fashion to make the point you are making.

So let us consider God's promise as there is a warning given to those that present the Gospel as well:

Matthew 7: 6Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. 7Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

We see this great commission here:

Matthew 28: 18And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations....

And yet what had happened here?

Acts 16: 6Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia, 7After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them not. 8And they passing by Mysia came down to Troas. 9And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us. 10And after he had seen the vision, immediately we endeavoured to go into Macedonia, assuredly gathering that the Lord had called us for to preach the gospel unto them.

God knows those that are seeking Him from those that are not.

John 3: 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

So the scenario of the guy on a desert island: God knows if he seeks him or not and if he does: He will get the gospel to him for He keeps His promises as it is evident that no flesh shall glory in His presence and the only way anyone can be saved has to be through the Son as all those that come into Heaven will be glorifying and honouring the Lamb.

Like that poor excuse for a missionary, we cannot be swayed by the outward appearances of man in regards to his sinful state. We all know why we needed the Saviour and so do they. I rest in God's promise that all those that seek, shall find, and no one in hell will be able to lie by saying.."if only someone had told me the Good News " ... because that would not go to the glory of God as God in saving those that want to be saved as they that burn in hell prefer their evil deeds rather than be reproved of them.
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