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Old 10-05-2009, 08:51 AM
 
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Probably 99.9% of the people here will say the atonement of Christ saves you to go to heaven and not your works or deeds.

At the same time these 99.9% people will say believing and following 90% of the bible is all you have to do to get the atonement of Christ saving you.

Well never mind my silly wisdom it's a filthy rag only ---Isaiah 64:6.

The book say John 10 people are the folks in the atonement of Christ to be saved-----Romans 6:1 and Romans 6:15.

They understand Romans 6:1 and Romans 6:15 only -----2 Cor. 4:3.

John 8:44 people understand John 3:16 and Romans 3:24 only--2 Cor. 4:3

They understand Ephesians 2:8 only----2 Cor. 4:3.

The "works" doctrine not only in Ephesians 2:8 and Romans 3:24.

The "works" doctrine also in 1 Timothy 6 and Ephesians 2:9.

1 "works" doctrine a cuss word today.
The other "works" doctrine a doctrine of Jesus Christ today.

That mean living out John 3:5 is how your saved in Romans 10:9.

That mean living out Hebrews 4 is how your saved in John 3:16.

That mean living out Hebrews 6 right is how your saved in Romans 3:24.

That mean living out Romans 6:1 is how your saved in Ephesians 2:8.

You get the point No repentance No grace.

True to say grace is behind nearly everything.

Grace when we do good and bad but the law on how to get to heaven stays the same.

What went bad could have been worst and what went good is because we normally did something right.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:23 AM
 
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Well there is nothing we can do to enter heaven but works and deeds is evidence that we are saved.
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Old 10-07-2009, 11:44 AM
 
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People say that often but they don't believe Romans 6:1 and Romans 6:15.

Saying repentance + grace = salvation is a cuss word to these same people often.

Nothing we can do to be perfect but something we must do to be saved besides believe in the atonement of Jesus to be saved.

Otherwise we mock John 3:5 with the water baptism teaching right.
Otherwise we mock the Sabbath teaching in Hebrews 4 right.
Otherwise we mock the foundational teaching on baptism right in Hebrews 6.
Otherwise we mock the general command to repent in Romans 6:1.
Otherwise we mock the belief of the Godhead right in John 8:24.
These are must do verses to go to heaven.
Must do verses don't mean you can ever be perfect but a must is a must to have what you want.




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Well there is nothing we can do to enter heaven but works and deeds is evidence that we are saved.
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Old 10-07-2009, 03:34 PM
 
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Amen Tony...you are a blessing from God...Thank you for your heart.

God Bless you,
Verna.
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