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Old 08-24-2012, 04:27 AM
 
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eve was deceived by the spiritual being satan the serpent(genesis and revelation), by the twisting of a little truth with lies ate the fruit and transgressed(violated) God's command; and adam, who was there was not deceived and ate the fruit, when it was passed to him from the part of himself GOD had made him(eve from his rib), sinned. this also correlates with 1timothy 2:13-14 and Romans 5:12-21. Eve never even noticed the fruit looked good to eat til a spiritual being called her attention to it. Adam not only failed God he failed Eve as she wasn't well instructed or protected. eve blamed the serpent and adam blamed eve and God (the woman you made me). Adam was punished one way, eve another way, as a unit another way(driven from eden) and the serpent satan another way. now I know women still suffer the punishment, but it seems most men want their wives to suffer their punishment as well( help support the household and supply the food and such) as well as tend the children and do the household chores and so on. I find the women who help this way admirable though I find it sorrowful thier men expect that help not necessarily grateful for it but expectant of it. So according to scripture adam sinned (realizing he was breaking the command and having receivedthe command) and eve trangressed by being deceived through poor instruction,strong deception,and poor protection. and that is why the sins of the fathers are visited on the children(dueteronmy 5:9 and 24:16 exodus 20:5, and ezekial 18:20) and as Jesus was born of Mary but his father is God he is sinless as God doesn't sin so no sin was passed through his father.; though his mother was sinful(all have sinned and come short of the glory of God Romans 3:23) and did you realize the tree of life was also in the gardenof eden and God removed our access to it Genesis3 when eve and adam ate of the tree of knowledge. they could have lived forever if they had stayed away from that tree as God had commanded. the tree of life is in heaven now (rev) and we must die to self and grow in christ(obedience and character and integrity and such) and shed our earthly body (transformed in the ressUrection to a spiritual body) and face the judgement seat to eat from it. adam and eve and all the progeny could have eaten from it at any time if they had obeyed and stayed away.
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Old 08-24-2012, 07:26 AM
 
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believe that according to the Bible, Eve sinned first, Correct me if Iam wrong, as Iam sure you will, but if not, than answer this.


If Eve sinned first than how did you Christains inherit sin in the world through Adam and not Eve?
Because Adam was commanded by HaShem not to eat of the fruit of the Tree...Adam then told Eve, not to eat from this tree or even touch it or she would die...Since Adam was told directly from HaShem and Eve was not and it was Adam's duty to look out for his wife and he failed and more he also ate from the tree, it was a direct violation of what HaShem commanded him...IOW, Eve was told indirectly by Adam, and not told everything, that the command came from HaShem Himself, Adam on the other hand KNEW because he was told directly from HaShem and he disobeyed...
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Old 08-24-2012, 07:41 AM
 
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and as Jesus was born of Mary but his father is God he is sinless as God doesn't sin so no sin was passed through his father
You are missing this:

Isa 7:14 So, The Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold! The virgin will conceive and will bring forth a son; and she shall call His name Immanuel.
Isa 7:15 He shall eat curds and honey until He knows to refuse the evil and choose the good.
Isa 7:16 For before the boy shall know to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land that you hate will be forsaken before both her kings.




Here is my point: If Yeshua was HaShem in the flesh, even from birth, why would He have had to LEARN to refuse evil and LEARN to choose good?...I believe He was the Son of HaShem, however, was not infused with divine authority with the Holy Ghost UNTIL His baptism by John at the River Jordan, up till then He was a normal average human being that was set apart for a specific mission to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel...His steps were guided up until that time and he had to LEARN many things and when His vessels was ready, HaShem filled Him with the Holy Ghost with all authority of HaShem Himself in order to perform His Mission to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel...
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