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If you want to believe that the Bible is without error or contradiction, be my guest, but it seems rather foolish to me to do so inspite of evidence to the contrary. If God put His words in the Bible, And I believe He did, He did so among a host of things that are NOT His Word. Claiming that the whole thing is God's Word is the source of so many of the errors that we live with in Christianity today.
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Originally Posted by omega2xx
It would help if you gave an example of a contradiction.
There are so many and they have repeatedly been posted here. but those who think as you do seem unable to acknowledge them as contradictions, so posting more would be pointless.
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Do you not see the contradiction in that statement? If God ut His words in the Bile, He did not contradict Himself or He would not be omniscient. Wh in the Bible is not His words?
It is NOT necessary for the Bible to be 100% God's word to CONTAIN Inspirations from God!! The Bible NEVER claims to be ALL God's word and it never claims to be infallible or inerrant. Those false ideas are a "doctrine of demons" created by men and it is the source of a major corruption of Christ's Gospel. The test for what is God's truth is the Holy Spirit of agape love (Who IS God). If the Spirit of anything in the Bible contradicts or is incompatible with the Holy Spirit of agape love it is NOT God's word. That is why we are to test the Spirit of everything.
There are so many and they have repeatedly been posted here. but those who think as you do seem unable to acknowledge them as contradictions, so posting more would be pointless.
I certainly can't acknowledge them as contradiction unless I have an example. I have seen non- believers post what they considered a contradiction but that is because they did not understand the verse(s).
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It is NOT necessary for the Bible to be 100% God's word to CONTAIN Inspirations from God!!
Sure it is. God did not allow sinful men to put words in the Bible and then inspire them.
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The Bible NEVER claims to be ALL God's word and it never claims to be infallible or inerrant.
All of the Bible is Scripture and Timothy tells us All Scripture is inspired by God. Scripture inspired by God must be infallible and inerrant. Otherwise we can't find the truth. To think God would allow fallible and errant words in the Bible is unthinkable.
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Those false ideas are a "doctrine of demons" created by men and it is the source of a major corruption of Christ's Gospel.
The doctrine of demons is that all of God's word is NOT inspired and that is what corrupts Christ's gospel. That is the theology of liberal theologians who all deny the inspiration of the Bible, and dtry to discredit even the words of Jesus. Several years ago a gaggle of liberal theologians had a meeting they called "The Jesus Project. Their conclusion was that only16% of what is attributed to Jesus saying, He actually said. Of course liberal theologians are long on pontification and short on evidence.
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The test for what is God's truth is the Holy Spirit of agape love (Who IS God). If the Spirit of anything in the Bible contradicts or is incompatible with the Holy Spirit of agape love it is NOT God's word. That is why we are to test the Spirit of everything.
While that is true, it is way to narrow. The test for what is God truth is "did God say it?" The only way we can know for sure that God said it, it to find it in His inspired, infallible and inerrant word.
If God's word is not inerrant, we can never be sure we know the truth.
I certainly can't acknowledge them as contradiction unless I have an example. I have seen non- believers post what they considered a contradiction but that is because they did not understand the verse(s).
Sure it is. God did not allow sinful men to put words in the Bible and then inspire them.
All of the Bible is Scripture and Timothy tells us All Scripture is inspired by God. Scripture inspired by God must be infallible and inerrant. Otherwise we can't find the truth. To think God would allow fallible and errant words in the Bible is unthinkable.
The doctrine of demons is that all of God's word is NOT inspired and that is what corrupts Christ's gospel. That is the theology of liberal theologians who all deny the inspiration of the Bible, and dtry to discredit even the words of Jesus. Several years ago a gaggle of liberal theologians had a meeting they called "The Jesus Project. Their conclusion was that only16% of what is attributed to Jesus saying, He actually said. Of course liberal theologians are long on pontification and short on evidence.
While that is true, it is way to narrow. The test for what is God truth is "did God say it?" The only way we can know for sure that God said it, it to find it in His inspired, infallible and inerrant word.
If God's word is not inerrant, we can never be sure we know the truth.
The only documents Timothy referred to as "Scripture" were the Torah and the Talmud. The New Testament wouldn't even be assembled for several hundred years.
Sure it is. God did not allow sinful men to put words in the Bible and then inspire them.
All of the Bible is Scripture and Timothy tells us All Scripture is inspired by God. Scripture inspired by God must be infallible and inerrant. Otherwise we can't find the truth. To think God would allow fallible and errant words in the Bible is unthinkable.
The doctrine of demons is that all of God's word is NOT inspired and that is what corrupts Christ's gospel. That is the theology of liberal theologians who all deny the inspiration of the Bible, and dtry to discredit even the words of Jesus. Several years ago a gaggle of liberal theologians had a meeting they called "The Jesus Project. Their conclusion was that only16% of what is attributed to Jesus saying, He actually said. Of course liberal theologians are long on pontification and short on evidence.
While that is true, it is way to narrow. The test for what is God truth is "did God say it?" The only way we can know for sure that God said it, it to find it in His inspired, infallible and inerrant word.
If God's word is not inerrant, we can never be sure we know the truth.
Amen !!
That is the foundational principle to Christianity. " (All) Scripture (OT\NT) inspired by God must be infallible and inerrant. Otherwise we can't find the truth"
The only documents Timothy referred to as "Scripture" were the Torah and the Talmud. The New Testament wouldn't even be assembled for several hundred years.
Only that God the Holy Spirit inspired Peter to write concerning Paul's letters are on the same plain as the OT.
Amen !! That is the foundational principle to Christianity. " (All) Scripture (OT\NT) inspired by God must be infallible and inerrant. Otherwise we can't find the truth"
UNbelievable! Your very Bibles tell you what promise Jesus made for guide and yet you WILL set up something else, claiming that it is the work of that Guide and the Guide won't go outside of that work anymore because it is the new authority even though such a thing was never promised nor indicated. That the Bible can be a tool FOR the Spirit is reasonable, but to look to the Bible FIRST is flying in the face of the promise in it.
"39You pore over the Scriptures because you presume that by them you possess eternal life. These are the very words that testify about Me, 40yet you refuse to come to Me to have life."
The only documents Timothy referred to as "Scripture" were the Torah and the Talmud. The New Testament wouldn't even be assembled for several hundred years.
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Originally Posted by twin.spin
Only that God the Holy Spirit inspired Peter to write concerning Paul's letters are on the same plain as the OT.
You're certainly entitled to believe that, but that is definitely not Biblical. I wonder how many of the thousands of denominations are accountable to such interpretations.
The Bible cannot be perfect, as it was written by men. Inspired by God, but written by men.
Only God is perfect. Attributing perfection to the Bible is idolatrous.
But it is. Those who want for it not to be do so for a simple reason as Jesus says:
John 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed.
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