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this verse is often used as a "killerverse" against the teaching of the reconciliation of the whole [universe] (Col. 1:20), I don't understand in which manner this verse contradicts that eventually all creatures will be saved.
For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit. (1 Peter 4:6)
where does judgment in Hebrews 9:27 imply everlasting punishment or anything like that? In 1 Peter judgment seems to be something positive.
this verse is often used as a "killerverse" against the teaching of the reconciliation of the whole [universe] (Col. 1:20), I don't understand in which manner this verse contradicts that eventually all creatures will be saved.
For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit. (1 Peter 4:6)
where does judgment in Hebrews 9:27 imply everlasting punishment or anything like that? In 1 Peter judgment seems to be something positive.
It's funny to me that this verse is used so much to relate to every person on earth which it is not if read in the context it was written...it is a discourse about the high priests. I suggest you read the entire text because this verse is being spoken of them, not humanity in general.
this verse is often used as a "killerverse" against the teaching of the reconciliation of the whole [universe] (Col. 1:20), I don't understand in which manner this verse contradicts that eventually all creatures will be saved.
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where does judgment in Hebrews 9:27 imply everlasting punishment or anything like that? In 1 Peter judgment seems to be something positive.
I have never understood this one as well , i actually believed it meant everlasting punishment . Why ? , i haven't a clue , I cannot believe i was dumb enough to believe judgement meant ET. Even if ET was true, judgement does not mean ET , period
It's funny to me that this verse is used so much to relate to every person on earth which it is not if read in the context it was written...it is a discourse about the high priests. I suggest you read the entire text because this verse is being spoken of them, not humanity in general.
Hebrews 9:27 is about the entire human race in general. It is not about the high priests. That doesn't even make any sense.
As far as Col. 1:20, universal reconciliation is not universal salvation. Reconciliation simply means that Christ paid the penalty for every sin in the human race that would ever be committed. That means that sin will never be an issue in salvation. But that reconciliation is not applied to a person unless that person makes a decision to believe in Christ. That's why all the salvation passages are there, telling us to believe, to make a choice.
Hebrews 9:27 is about the entire human race in general. It is not about the high priests. That doesn't even make any sense.
Go back and read the whole chapter...it is speaking about the high priests and their duties verses Jesus and how he fulfilled all that they did. It makes perfect sense if you keep it in the context in which it was written.
I have never understood this one as well , i actually believed it meant everlasting punishment . Why ? , i haven't a clue , I cannot believe i was dumb enough to believe judgement meant ET. Even if ET was true, judgement does not mean ET , period
Yea, don't ya know it means a fire bath, with some spanking or err stripes. Hmm. Sounds kinky. But relax, it is only for a "spell" and then you are released. So be a good boy.
Yea, don't ya know it means a fire bath, with some spanking or err stripes. Hmm. Sounds kinky. But relax, it is only for a "spell" and then you are released. So be a good boy.
Actually i'm a very naughty boy . So my wife tells me
It's funny to me that this verse is used so much to relate to every person on earth which it is not if read in the context it was written...it is a discourse about the high priests. I suggest you read the entire text because this verse is being spoken of them, not humanity in general.
The verse is about everyone. ALL have been appointed to die. All of us have death for all of us have the condemnation that was appointed unto Adam.
The offer of salvation is universal, but the entrance into heaven isn't.
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