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Old 04-14-2016, 06:34 AM
 
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How would you know born again Christians pulled gas levers at the camps?
How do you know they didn't?

Gott Mit Uns - god with us


god/jesus approved.
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Old 04-14-2016, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Ok, so when you said 'fundie', you meant Christian in general. Got it. I think that is what most people mean when they use the word 'fundie'.
Not implied by the statement at all. What he was saying was that "fundie" is a term for a kind of Christian, and therefore not applicable to him at all. He seems to have missed the point that the "fundie" mindset is presrnt in many religions, including Judaism.

You might be able to appreciate the difference by comparing twin-spin's absolutely literal reading of the scriptures he cites with your sensible note that a reasonable person would see that the terms are not absolute in the sense that he makes of them. Interesting thought: there are degrees of fundamentalism; some people throw ALL good sense to the wind.
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Old 04-14-2016, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Florida
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How do you know they didn't?
Since you made the claim, it is for you to prove it.
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Old 04-14-2016, 07:38 AM
 
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Since you made the claim, it is for you to prove it.
I asked questions. Christian and Jesus go hand and hand, no?
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Old 04-14-2016, 08:01 AM
 
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How would you know born again Christians pulled gas levers at the camps?
Are you saying there were no chritian nazi soldiers?

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Old 04-14-2016, 08:13 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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How would you know born again Christians pulled gas levers at the camps?
They claimed to be "born-again" and who are we to argue?
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Old 04-14-2016, 09:51 AM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Let's look at the first one for example: "All have turned away, they have together become worthless".

1) How does a baby, or an aborted baby, turn away and become worthless?

How can a baby turn away, when turning away requires an action a baby is incapable of doing?

I think that verse supports my POV more than yours.

Psalm 14 and Psalm 53 say: The fool says in his heart,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;
there is no one who does good.

2) Again, a baby, or an aborted baby, cannot do that. They can't speak, and they have no deeds (good or bad)

Ecclesiastes 7:20 clearly talks about people and their deeds, and once again babies have no deeds.

Genesis talks about the wicked deeds of men. Same scenario.
1A:
"Flesh gives birth to flesh" ~ Jesus

"The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so." Romans 8:7
Flesh that gives birth to flesh is governed by the same hostility. Adam & Eve choose to be "friends" of the "world" thus humanity from then on is by nature an enemy of God subsequently "flesh gives birth to flesh".
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2A:
According to God, they do "good and bad"
Psalm 58:3
Even from birth the wicked go astray; from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies.
and
Psalm 22:10
From birth I was cast on you; from my mother’s womb you have been my God.

Psalm 51:6
Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb; you taught me wisdom in that secret place.

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Old 04-14-2016, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I asked questions. Christian and Jesus go hand and hand, no?
You made a claim by saying the following: "hitlers born again soldiers that pulled the triggers and the gas levers or turned the heat up in the ovens".

I asked you to back it up with some fact, which you apparently cannot do that. End of story.
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Old 04-14-2016, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Florida
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1A:
"Flesh gives birth to flesh" ~ Jesus

"The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to Godís law, nor can it do so." Romans 8:7
Flesh that gives birth to flesh is governed by the same hostility. Adam & Eve choose to be "friends" of the "world" thus humanity from then on is by nature an enemy of God subsequently "flesh gives birth to flesh".
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2A:
According to God, they do "good and bad"
Psalm 58:3
Even from birth the wicked go astray; from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies.
and
Psalm 22:10
From birth I was cast on you; from my motherís womb you have been my God.

Psalm 51:6
Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb; you taught me wisdom in that secret place.
I stick to what I said before. The above does not change it.
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Old 04-14-2016, 10:43 AM
 
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You made a claim by saying the following: "hitlers born again soldiers that pulled the triggers and the gas levers or turned the heat up in the ovens".

I asked you to back it up with some fact, which you apparently cannot do that. End of story.
You left the question mark off at the end of my quote.

Are denying the nazis were Christians?
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