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Old 04-14-2016, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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So I ask once again, in your theology it is possible that babies and young children will go to Hell, yes or no ? You quote a lot of scripture but I don't recall ever seeing you give a straight answer to this topic .
Don't hold your breath.
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Old 04-14-2016, 09:38 PM
 
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Not so for there is no age exception to:
"that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God."
"age of accountability" is a false teaching.
When God's says the children are Holy it is because He takes away the sin and nothing you say will change His mind. This has nothing to do with whether you believe in accountability or not. But God is accountable to fulfill His Word to the children as to what is written. You seem to miss the bigger picture and are stuck on sin whereas God takes it away. But you say they are still filthy. Who is telling the truth, you or God?
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Old 04-14-2016, 09:40 PM
 
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twin lets his bible do both his thinking, and his talking, for him.
Odd that he won't give a straight answer on this but he routinely states that the posters who disagree with him are going to hell.
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Old 04-14-2016, 11:28 PM
 
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Default Are Babies Who Have Not Been Saved Comdemned To Hell?

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That was the purpose of focusing on belief in Jesus. It enabled the growth of Churches and the need for membership in them to partake in the salvation Christ achieved for us all. By pretending that you need to believe a particular set of things ABOUT Jesus and God (only found in their religion) the seeds of religiosity were planted and nurtured. So that today, the Gospel of Christ is virtually ignored and corrupted by the "precepts and doctrines of men" in the religions who claim to represent Him. They pretend that the Gospel is believing what they tell you to believe ABOUT Jesus, but that is NOT the Gospel of Jesus. The Gospel (or Good News) is that God is NOT counting our sins against us, we are saved from eternal separation from God by Jesus, and there is no need to fear death because it is actually a rebirth as Spirit into a spiritual body to join Jesus and God. Everything else is Bad News or human vanity and hubris writ large.
Twin and the fundies reveal the utter evil in their dogma when they claim that if babies die they go to their fictitious eternal torment. The utter ignorance and barbaric idiocy of such beliefs is beyond the pale. They believe in religion, NOT Jesus and God. It is a travesty.
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Old 04-15-2016, 12:31 AM
 
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Who knows but the head of the bodily. For the subject to even be brought up is evidence of something sinister. How is it that such questions arise in a given setting is more than predictable.
Not only do the questions test but tempt.
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Old 04-15-2016, 03:34 AM
 
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Asking questions is sinister? I would think blind faith is MORE sinister and shows real contempt....even Lot asked / challenged God..
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Old 04-15-2016, 06:55 AM
 
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Asking questions is sinister? I would think blind faith is MORE sinister and shows real contempt....even Lot asked / challenged God..
Blind faith is a highly admired quality in Christianity. One of the biggest " heros of the faith" is the guy willing to kill his son and burn him as a sacrifice to God.
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Old 04-15-2016, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Actually you are intentionally ignoring everything God said in preference to your rebuttal of God's Word.
Not at all. The verses you have provided do not support the view that babies go to hell.

Babies minds are not governed by wickedness, they do not commit sins, and Jesus said you should me more like children.
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Old 04-15-2016, 07:20 AM
 
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Who knows but the head of the bodily. For the subject to even be brought up is evidence of something sinister. How is it that such questions arise in a given setting is more than predictable.
Not only do the questions test but tempt.

My question was phrased " is it possible". If one cannot say a definite no, then the answer is yes, it seems possible to me . If ones theology allows this possibility , why the reluctance to admit it openly ?

Explain how it is sinister to question the theology of a faith? If the theology embarrasses you because of what it suggests , that is a problem for you to question why you believe in it . It doesn't make asking legit questions about someone's theology sinister .
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Old 04-15-2016, 08:05 AM
 
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There is a definition that is important to understand - it is of the word GRACE - It means the UNDESERVED mercy of God. Also the ALMIGHTY created chaos and order- positive and negative - good and evil....God does not condemn - theology does. God sends the blessing of sacred rain on the evil as well as the good. God is the essence of fairness. God is not going to damn his own angels....especially innocent children.
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