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Old 04-17-2016, 04:55 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
You have been shown why your verses simply cannot apply to anyone but adults, but you insist they apply to babies too.

You preach what you preach, but so far I have not seen any Biblical proof to persuade me to change by view. As a matter of fact, you have done the opposite.
Are you purposefully being dunce about this or is this a case of being spiritually discerned (1 Corinthians 2:14) ?

These flat out says babies can do what you claim otherwise:
Psalm 51:6
Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb; you taught me wisdom in that secret place.

Psalm 22:10
From birth I was cast on you; from my mother’s womb you have been my God.

Psalm 58:3
"The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies. KJV


There is no "decision exemption" for a baby in:
"Flesh gives birth to flesh"

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Old 04-17-2016, 04:59 PM
 
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Are you purposefully being dunce about this or is this a case of being being spiritually discerned (1 Corinthians 2:14) ?

These flat out says babies can do what you claim otherwise:
Psalm 51:6
Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb; you taught me wisdom in that secret place.

Psalm 22:10
From birth I was cast on you; from my motherís womb you have been my God.

Psalm 58:3
"The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.


There is no "decision exemption" for a baby in:
"Flesh gives birth to flesh"
Your thoughts control you.
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Old 04-17-2016, 05:07 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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THIS from the man who does not believe his own Bible on the nature of the guide promised by Jesus.
The many false and Satanic spirits that gets people to look inside themselves or to something else other than God's Word the Holy Bible \ "the Scriptures" as Jesus referred to when refuting the satanic spirits.

God says these are true
"Flesh gives birth to flesh" ~ Jesus

Psalm 51:6
Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb; you taught me wisdom in that secret place.

Psalm 22:10
From birth I was cast on you; from my mother’s womb you have been my God.

Psalm 58:3
"The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.


Romans 3:9-19 in which:
  1. Romans 3:4 quotes Psalm 51:4
  2. Romans 3:12 quotes Psalms 14:1-3; 53:1-3; Eccles. 7:20
  3. Romans 3:13 quotes Psalm 5:9
  4. Romans 3:13 quotes Psalm 140:3
  5. Romans 3:14 quotes Psalm 10:7
  6. Romans 3:17 quotes Isaiah 59:7,8
  7. Romans 3:18 quotes Psalm 36:1 "
falsehoods and godless spirits say otherwise.

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Old 04-17-2016, 05:12 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Your thoughts control you.
Gee, how profound
Got any other no duh's or is it time for more of your thought control fortune cookie sayings?
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Old 04-17-2016, 05:16 PM
 
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The many false and Satanic spirits gets people to look inside themselves or to something else other than God's Word the Holy Bible \ "the Scriptures" as Jesus referred to when refuting the satanic spirits.
He refuted the Religious-mindset; And their Pinnacle of Sin and death.
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Old 04-17-2016, 05:28 PM
 
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Gee, how profound
Got any other no duh's or is it time for more of your thought control fortune cookie sayings?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JmA2ClUvUY

Talking in tongues? LMAO
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Old 04-17-2016, 05:59 PM
 
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Fortune Cookie:

A wrathful person sees only the evil in others.
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Old 04-17-2016, 06:03 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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The many false and Satanic spirits that gets people to look inside themselves or to something else other than God's Word the Holy Bible \ "the Scriptures" as Jesus referred to when refuting the satanic spirits.

....snip...
Read that snippet to yourselves, ladies and gentlemen, but in your head, make all the "s" sounds sibilant...like the hissing of a s-s-snake.

Or like a Gollum-like someone who considers his bible to be his Precious....
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Old 04-17-2016, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Are you purposefully being dunce about this or is this a case of being spiritually discerned (1 Corinthians 2:14) ?

These flat out says babies can do what you claim otherwise:
Psalm 51:6
Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb; you taught me wisdom in that secret place.

Psalm 22:10
From birth I was cast on you; from my mother’s womb you have been my God.

Psalm 58:3
"The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies. KJV


There is no "decision exemption" for a baby in:
"Flesh gives birth to flesh"
No, they do not flat out say what you think they say.

You have offered a lot of verses which you claim support your view, and I have shown they do not support it.

Read your psalm again, and ask with an honest heart if this is to be taken literally meaning "as soon as they are born" aka a new born baby. Everyone knows that there has never been a baby who has said anything as soon as they are born. They are not capably of speaking. They have to learn it. Why do you find it so hard to admit this? This is silly.

Psalm 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born,speaking lies.
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Old 04-17-2016, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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The many false and Satanic spirits that gets people to look inside themselves or to something else other than God's Word the Holy Bible \ "the Scriptures" as Jesus referred to when refuting the satanic spirits.
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This is true. On the other hand that Bible says we are to have a guide (not just 'something inside ourselves') but the Spirit of Truth, and there is more than one description of the results of that guidance and the nature of the wisdom gained from it as well as the nature of God relating to men as taught by Jesus and Paul. Are you and Finn in agreement about the meaning of your "standard" by rhe citations given? Or is it just a matter of doctrines taught and you really HAVE no standard for telling truth? When have I ever urged anything but what is absolutely Biblical in this matter? But you obviously don't believe your Bible.

"False spirit" that gets people to look inside themselves: John 14:17 "the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you." Perhaps you don't like what you see when you "look inside yourself," twin?

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