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Old 04-18-2016, 01:19 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Psalm 58:3 God said they do ... take your pick of translations
I did not say "even the ones who were born dead" ... btw.

KJ21
The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies.

ASV
The wicked are estranged from the womb: They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies.

AMP
The wicked are estranged from the womb; These go astray from birth, speaking lies [even twisted partial truths].

AMPC
The ungodly are perverse and estranged from the womb; they go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies.

BRG
The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

CEB
The wicked backslide from the womb; liars go astray from birth.

CEV
You have done wrong and lied from the day you were born.

DARBY
The wicked go astray from the womb; they err as soon as they are born, speaking lies.

ERV
Those wicked people started doing wrong as soon as they were born. They have been liars from birth.

ESV
The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from birth, speaking lies.

ESVUK
The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from birth, speaking lies.

EXB
From ·birth [L the womb], evil people ·turn away [go astray] from God; they wander off and tell lies ·as soon as they are born [L from the belly; C another word for the womb; 51:5].

GNV
The wicked are strangers from the womb: even from the belly have they erred, and speak lies.

GW
Even inside the womb wicked people are strangers to God. From their birth liars go astray.

GNT
Evildoers go wrong all their lives; they tell lies from the day they are born.

HCSB
The wicked go astray from the womb; liars err from birth.

ICB
From birth evil men start doing bad things. They tell lies and do wrong as soon as they are born.

ISV
The wicked go astray from the womb; they go astray, telling lies even from birth.

JUB
The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies.

KJV
The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

AKJV
The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

LEB
The wicked are estranged from the womb. They go astray from the belly, speaking lies.

TLB
These men are born sinners, lying from their earliest words!

MSG
The wicked crawl from the wrong side of the cradle; their first words out of the womb are lies. Poison, lethal rattlesnake poison, drips from their forked tongues— Deaf to threats, deaf to charm, decades of wax built up in their ears.

MEV
The wicked are estranged from the womb onward; those who speak lies go astray from birth.

NOG
Even inside the womb wicked people are strangers to God. From their birth liars go astray.

NASB
The wicked are estranged from the womb; These who speak lies go astray from birth.

NCV
From birth, evil people turn away from God; they wander off and tell lies as soon as they are born.

NET
The wicked turn aside from birth; liars go astray as soon as they are born.

NIRV
Even from birth those who are evil go down the wrong path. From the day they are born they go the wrong way and spread lies.

NIV
Even from birth the wicked go astray; from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies.

NIVUK
Even from birth the wicked go astray; from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies.

NKJV
The wicked are estranged from the womb; They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies.

NLV
The sinful go wrong as soon as they are born. Those who speak lies go the wrong way from birth.

NLT
These wicked people are born sinners; even from birth they have lied and gone their own way.

NRSV
The wicked go astray from the womb; they err from their birth, speaking lies.

NRSVA
The wicked go astray from the womb; they err from their birth, speaking lies.

NRSVACE
The wicked go astray from the womb; they err from their birth, speaking lies.

NRSVCE
The wicked go astray from the womb; they err from their birth, speaking lies.

OJB
The resha’im are perverted from the rekhem (womb); gone astray from birth are they, speaking kazav (lie, falsehood).

RSV
The wicked go astray from the womb, they err from their birth, speaking lies.

RSVCE
The wicked go astray from the womb, they err from their birth, speaking lies.

VOICE
Evildoers are naturally offensive, wayward at birth! They were born telling lies and willfully wandering from the truth.

WEB
The wicked go astray from the womb. They are wayward as soon as they are born, speaking lies.

WYC
Sinners were made aliens from the womb (Sinners, or evil-doers, go wrong from the womb); they erred from the womb, they spake false things.

YLT
The wicked have been estranged from the womb, They have erred from the belly, speaking lies.


The Bible says study to show yourself approved a workman that needed not be ashamed rightfully dividing the word of God.....The scriptures that you provided are strictly ( Poetic ) how in the WORLD can a baby speak from it's ( Mother's Womb ) that certainly would be a Biblical Miracle to rival all Other Miracles detailed in the Bible.....
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Old 04-18-2016, 01:28 PM
 
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When babies born illigitimate were refused burial in a churchyard... yes the grand old churches and religion..arent they just wonderful.......Cranmer: Children's bones; babies' bodies


Are you really amazed that Christ-Ain't fall short of the glory of Christ Jesus...????
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Old 04-18-2016, 01:29 PM
 
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OK, do you agree with it? Do you agree new born babies are capable of speaking? Yes, or no?

You know as well as I, and everyone else, what the truth is.

It is not meant to taken literally.



I do find it funny that literalists are upset that someone is taking the Bible too literally for them, and inventing strange doctrine in doing so . And yet many of these same that object now will argue to death with you about Noah's Ark and the Sun standing still and talking snakes and talking donkeys and Jonah being swallowed by a whale and ....... .
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Old 04-18-2016, 01:35 PM
 
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Yes, I agree with God.
I take it just as literal as when God said this about John the Baptist in the womb:
"When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb ...
" 'As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. ' "
God knows what he is talking about. Those who opposed God claim otherwise.


So , to ask the question again that has been steadily dodged up to this point , do you believe that it is possible , in your theology, that God will send babies and infants to Hell ?

Or is this a question that will be continually ducked and dodged ?
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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I do find it funny that literalists are upset that someone is taking the Bible too literally for them, and inventing strange doctrine in doing so . And yet many of these same that object now will argue to death with you about Noah's Ark and the Sun standing still and talking snakes and talking donkeys and Jonah being swallowed by a whale and ....... .
The Bible must be taken literally enough to support my doctrine, but not literally enough to support your doctrine.
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:18 PM
 
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No GOD doesn't send Babies to.....






hELL...............
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:31 PM
 
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No GOD doesn't send Babies to.....






hELL...............
Did god whisper that in your eAR?
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:36 PM
 
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God also said this:

"The mountains leaped like rams; the hills like lambs."

Is that to be taken literally?
No. You got the atheist forum and religion forum to air out all your venom against God and His Word. Do you really need to do it here as well?
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:45 PM
 
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No GOD doesn't send Babies to.....






hELL...............
At what age does god start sending folks to "hell?"
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:47 PM
 
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God also said this:

"The mountains leaped like rams; the hills like lambs."

Is that to be taken literally?
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No. You got the atheist forum and religion forum to air out all your venom against God and His Word. Do you really need to do it here as well?
It is just a simple question jeff-free-base.. Can you answer it or not?

If it is metaphorical how does one know that? Is there a secret code that allows us to know if a passage is to be taken literally or if it is simply a metaphor?


As for who stays or who goes, maybe we should have a forum wide vote and see who gets to stay?
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