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Old 10-12-2009, 11:46 AM
 
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So then why did you play on an emotional plea?
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Neither Ironmaw or myself are basing UR on feelings . Ironmaw asked a genuine question about how you would feel if your loved ones were sent to Eternal torment ?.

So nothing is being based on feelings.It was a question about how you would feel about . Or are you so void of emotion it would not move you ?


If you parents or children went to eternal torment because of their unbelief and being children of the devil(your own words) would you would not be in pain over it?.
According to your own belief you somehow think it glorifies God.
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:51 AM
 
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what? Please expound on this
It is simple. Under a doctrine such as yours that allows for the Glory of God to be a human eternally damned there is nothing you can do or say or even believe that prevents you from being damned forever to the Glory of God.

Do you agree with that or not?
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:53 AM
 
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Neither Ironmaw or myself are basing UR on feelings . Ironmaw asked a genuine question about how you would feel if your loved ones were sent to Eternal torment ?.

So nothing is being based on feelings.


If you parents or children went to eternal torment because of their unbelief and being children of the devil(your own words) would you would not be in pain over it?.
According to your own belief you somehow think it glorifies God.
again emotion but I will answer your question. I will feel very sad but not for the reasons you think.

I would feel horrible because I did not give them the gospel
I would feel horrible that they are in hell because my pride got in the way and didn't want to seem weird to them and now their blood is on my hands
I would feel sad that even though they got the gospel, they rejected it and now they must pay the penalty

I would absolutely hate myself and not show love to my God by not getting out on the streets at least once a day and not sharing my faith, passing out a tract to someone.

I glorify God by giving His truth.
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:55 AM
 
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It is simple. Under a doctrine such as yours that allows for the Glory of God to be a human eternally damned there is nothing you can do or say or even believe that prevents you from being damned forever to the Glory of God.

Do you agree with that or not?
If God chose that then I TOTALLY AGREE!!
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:59 AM
 
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again emotion but I will answer your question. I will feel very sad but not for the reasons you think.

I would feel horrible because I did not give them the gospel
I would feel horrible that they are in hell because my pride got in the way and didn't want to seem weird to them and now their blood is on my hands
I would feel sad that even though they got the gospel, they rejected it and now they must pay the penalty

I would absolutely hate myself and not show love to my God by not getting out on the streets at least once a day and not sharing my faith, passing out a tract to someone.

I glorify God by giving His truth.


The question has nothing to do with bible doctrine regardless of what you believe.

So why do you keep implying that it's a feeling based doctrine ?
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Old 10-12-2009, 12:01 PM
 
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The question has nothing to do with bible doctrine regardless of what you believe.

So why do you keep implying that it's a feeling based doctrine ?
I was just commenting on Iron's post....which I see in many of ya'll's post as well.
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Old 10-12-2009, 12:02 PM
 
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If God chose that then I TOTALLY AGREE!!

Awesome, finally, finally someone who lives up to the logic of their doctrine and will witness to others and make sure they know that God may assign them to eternal damnation if it so pleases him no matter how much they believe and worship him and serve him. It may all be to no effect and there is no way to know for sure.

Thank you fundy.
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Old 10-12-2009, 12:09 PM
 
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Awesome, finally, finally someone who lives up to the logic of their doctrine and will witness to others and make sure they know that God may assign them to eternal damnation if it so pleases him no matter how much they believe and worship him and serve him. It may all be to no effect and there is no way to know for sure.

Thank you fundy.
LOL... that was a stretch and you left a few things out. God does what He does for His glory, if it gives Him the glory to send everyone to heaven then that's His glory. If it gives Him the glory to send everyone to hell then that is His glory as well.

Scripture is very clear, sending people to hell does not please God. If scripture said it did, then who am I to argue but it doesn't.

I only go from scripture and I don't see anywhere in scripture where one is damned if they worship Him and serve Him
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Old 10-12-2009, 12:19 PM
 
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LOL... that was a stretch and you left a few things out. God does what He does for His glory, if it gives Him the glory to send everyone to heaven then that's His glory. If it gives Him the glory to send everyone to hell then that is His glory as well.

Scripture is very clear, sending people to hell does not please God. If scripture said it did, then who am I to argue but it doesn't.

I only go from scripture and I don't see anywhere in scripture where one is damned if they worship Him and serve Him
There we have it the good news of Jesus Christ according to Fundamental Christianity.
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Old 10-12-2009, 12:20 PM
 
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LOL... that was a stretch and you left a few things out. God does what He does for His glory, if it gives Him the glory to send everyone to heaven then that's His glory. If it gives Him the glory to send everyone to hell then that is His glory as well.

Scripture is very clear, sending people to hell does not please God. If scripture said it did, then who am I to argue but it doesn't.

I only go from scripture and I don't see anywhere in scripture where one is damned if they worship Him and serve Him


Well, that contradicts the whole calvinist slant any way you look at it.

Thank you again.
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