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Old 10-14-2009, 04:05 PM
 
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Well how do you think those before the law was introduced knew sin ?
Before Moses? They didn't exactly which is why people were punished again and again from the flood to the Tower of Babel
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:07 PM
 
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without the law?

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I didn't ask that....................How do you know sin without the law?
My goodness...Calm is a good thing, ya know?

(So is kindness. As in NOT calling other's ideas, beliefs, etc. "delusion."


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You conscience (with knowledge) tells you what is right and wrong.

Your conscience does not tell you specifically that you are a sinner and in need of God's forgiveness.
One's ability to possess a functional conscience does (among other things) enable one to know what is right and what is wrong. It does so by one's ability to feel remorse, and/or guilt.

-Somehow June has the funny feeling that despite your second sentence, anyone and everyone who attributes their actions as being "sinful" is making darn good use of their conscience. -And whoa to he/she who is not, June would think! It may be 'framed' or placed in a construct of "sin" but make no mistake, if there is no conscience, there's not lookin' like a whole lotta sin goin' down in June's mind. (Think about it.)

Take gentle care.
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:10 PM
 
Location: East Coast
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Before Moses? They didn't exactly which is why people were punished again and again from the flood to the Tower of Babel
You are know convincing me you don't know what you are talking about .

What do you think sacrifices were for ? Why do you think Adam went and hid himself ?
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Florida
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That is what the Bible says Verna.....

1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.


1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

HK
Amen Harold!...

Love you brother!
Verna.
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:12 PM
 
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My goodness...Calm is a good thing, ya know?

(So is kindness. As in NOT calling other's ideas, beliefs, etc. "delusion."




One's ability to possess a functional conscience does (among other things) enable one to know what is right and what is wrong. It does so by one's ability to feel remorse, and/or guilt.

-Somehow June has the funny feeling that despite your second sentence, anyone and everyone who attributes their actions as being "sinful" is making darn good use of their conscience. -And whoa to he/she who is not, June would think! It may be 'framed' or placed in a construct of "sin" but make no mistake, if there is no conscience, there's not lookin' like a whole lotta sin goin' down in June's mind. (Think about it.)

Take gentle care.
Oh come now I was just kidding about delusions and what's wrong with saying, beliefs?....so you believe you know the difference between right and wrong June? Would you say, your definition of right and wrong is relative or absolute?

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Old 10-14-2009, 04:18 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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One recognises sin the same way one recognises pragmatism; that what works is not a sin at that what doesn't is.
Unfortunately humanity rarely is objective because they rarely look beyond their own experiences (read: humanity, like a young child, often is too egocentric).
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:21 PM
 
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One recognises sin the same way one recognises pragmatism; that what works is not a sin at that what doesn't is.
Unfortunately humanity rarely is objective because they rarely look beyond their own experiences (read: humanity, like a young child, often is too egocentric).
Does the bible recognize sin as pragmatic?
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:29 PM
 
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The Holy Spirit reproves of sin. (John 16:8)
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:35 PM
 
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The Holy Spirit reproves of sin. (John 16:8)
I agree but the woman who was accused knew she was guilty because of the Law. I believe the Holy Spirit was working in her knowing that Jesus was the saviour which is why she called Him, "Lord"
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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without the law?

Please will love to hear answers and at least one verse or one delusion (optional)
Romans 4:15...but where there is no law, there also is no violation.

Without Law...there is no sin...there is no way to recognize sin is sin without the law.
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