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Old 10-15-2009, 07:16 PM
 
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Dear Trettep/Paul,

June has no doubt what so ever that intelligence, like everything else, has a source.

-June's not sure which type of intelligence you'd be referring to, though. June tends to regard "intelligence" as an awfully broad concept. Cognitive intelligence, emotional intelligence, spatial intelligence, analytical intelligence...etc., etc., etc.

See June's point?

Take gentle intelligent care,

-June
The ability to reason etc.. Consider for a moment that many believe that simply lifeforms are becoming more complex (more intelligent). Now consider Randomness - Randomness is really just an abstraction of what is not known. Upon the theory that simple lifeforms become more complex (thus intelligent) means that they are working towards the tearing down of Randomness (which is based on what is unknown.) Eventually, what this shows is that the if you draw the two lines together you see that a point would come when Randomness would no longer exist and thus what would come to light is that what exists could never come by chance.

Paul
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:18 PM
 
Location: UPSTATE SC
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Do you have a top ten list of favorites posters on this board, similar to Letterman's??

Last edited by lifesigns64; 10-15-2009 at 07:27 PM..
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:28 PM
 
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June,

Why are certain religious people so hung up on their beliefs? Why can they not respect another person's beliefs even if they disagree with it? Why all the passive-aggressive jabs, stabs, and spikes? Rather than hate a person because of their beliefs, why can't they learn to accept and respect?

And thanks for making this thread. I'm sure it'll be quite popular
Dear Le Lune,

Truthfully, yours is a question after June's own heart.

For as long as June has been on these forums, she has found herself asking that same thing more times than even she can count. The "short answer" that June's come up with however, is this:

June has the sense that one's 'religion' (unlike their political affiliation) is a far more personal thing. Individuals tend to self-define -to a large extent- with their religious beliefs. June does not consider that a bad thing, mind you. -But unlike those of us who at some point or another decide what political party we wish to be a part of, one's religion is very deeply rooted. It also has a cultural aspect to it, meaning that for the most part, families identify and affiliate themselves with a certain denominational belief which in all likelihood has been inter-generational. In short, it is both a part of, as well as 'is' one's personal identity. (Or at the very least, a very near and dear part thereof.)

If June is aware of anything, it's two things: 1) Human beings tend to like being right, or at least feeling that we are. It enhances our self esteem, and we feel better about ourselves. It also serves to validate us. It reinforces. And 2) Anything that serves to threaten one's sense of self and self-identity is usually met with anxiety and resistance. We all like feeling that we 'know who we are.' As such, if someone comes along and attempts to undermine my own identity, and especially if they set out to prove me wrong, chances are I'm going to defend myself. Whether or not I do so passive-aggressively is dependent upon a lot of things, but let it suffice to say that that aspect of myself that is most personal, most valued, most cherished and by which I define my very self will no doubt be the most strenuously defended and guarded. Try and undermine that too much, and it can get ugly.

-Unless one has (for whatever reasons) managed to develop a nature of openness, acceptance, kindness, and fundamental respect of oneself, and others.

We're all human.

Take gentle human care,

-June
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:35 PM
 
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June was there a time on this forum when you could rep someone until your heart was content ?
Dear pcamps,

June suspects there may well have been a time when one could. However, what June suspects happened was that 'love interests' among members began to form. As such, instantaneous, passionate attractions could result in a newly joined member having a 'reputation' off the charts, while older, more dedicated members who were not consumed by such cheap passions were left to just muddle along with, well, the sorta rep count that June has.

It would only make sense that given the fact that city-data would hardly wish to facillitate or encourage such sort of sinful activity that the rep system would have had to have been modified. Tends to keep passions more in line, and that way, everyone sins less, gets to spread the love around.

Take gentle rep care,

-June
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:36 PM
 
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Why does June speak in the third person?

Thanks,
Sophia
Because she can.
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:41 PM
 
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The ability to reason etc.. Consider for a moment that many believe that simply lifeforms are becoming more complex (more intelligent). Now consider Randomness - Randomness is really just an abstraction of what is not known. Upon the theory that simple lifeforms become more complex (thus intelligent) means that they are working towards the tearing down of Randomness (which is based on what is unknown.) Eventually, what this shows is that the if you draw the two lines together you see that a point would come when Randomness would no longer exist and thus what would come to light is that what exists could never come by chance.

Paul
Dear Trettep/Paul,

What you wrote strikes June as very intelligent.

June's just not sure where you're going with it, though. For instance, how would creative intelligence factor in? Creativity is oftentimes spontaneous, is it not? -Or is June confusing "spontaneous" for "random?"

Which she may well be, as June is not the brightest, most intelligent bulb on the board, ya know.

Take gentle randomly spontaneous care,

-June
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:42 PM
 
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You always post with kindness. I wonder, though, why you never start threads in the A&A forum. Are there no implications of atheism that you disagree with, or make you ponder?

Also, on another thread you were particularly moved by a gardening metaphor. Do you garden?
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:47 PM
 
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Do you have a top ten list of favorites posters on this board, similar to Letterman's??
Dear lifesign,

Damn right June does!

She keeps it locked up in her Super Secret Moderator Lock Box, accessible only by cryptic combination codes derived from carefully formulated scriptural verse and passage numbers.

Take gentle secret care,

-June
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:48 PM
 
Location: East Coast
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Dear pcamps,

June suspects there may well have been a time when one could. However, what June suspects happened was that 'love interests' among members began to form. As such, instantaneous, passionate attractions could result in a newly joined member having a 'reputation' off the charts, while older, more dedicated members who were not consumed by such cheap passions were left to just muddle along with, well, the sorta rep count that June has.

It would only make sense that given the fact that city-data would hardly wish to facillitate or encourage such sort of sinful activity that the rep system would have had to have been modified. Tends to keep passions more in line, and that way, everyone sins less, gets to spread the love around.



Take gentle rep care,

-June

Thanks for clearing that one up .

Take modified rep count care
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:57 PM
 
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You always post with kindness. I wonder, though, why you never start threads in the A&A forum. Are there no implications of atheism that you disagree with, or make you ponder?

Also, on another thread you were particularly moved by a gardening metaphor. Do you garden?
Dear Bunjee,

June thinks it is very kind of you to tell her that she is kind. June, however, very rarely starts threads, period. June thinks that in all her time on these forums, she may have started a sum total of 6 threads. That's because June is more shy than she is kind. June has never thought to start a thread on the A&A forum because June's an atheist. Not much to ask about, ya know...?

June is racking her brains out trying to remember when she would have been 'moved' by a gardening metaphor. "Music" metaphor, yes. "Goose" metaphor, you betchya! --But gardening? (Which thread?)

In answer to your queston, though: Nope, no gardening for June. She actually can't stand 'gardening.'


Take gentle green thumb care,

-June
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