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Old 10-16-2009, 07:28 AM
 
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For instance gay adoption. I hear alot of Christians say, well as long as these unwanted children are adopted into a loving home
We cant say that we can do evil that good may come...

So that is the over-all guide.

But in the real world we also have to pick with care what battles we fight.
I also believe in the concept of "close enough, lets move on"
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Old 10-16-2009, 07:33 AM
 
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You speak as if we are living in a "Godly" country...we are not. We are Godly people living in a "Secular" society and they don't like being told what to do by people who follow God. It also doesn't help when we have churches that allow "sin" to dwell in their midst for the sake of tolerance. When Christians start calling "sin" good and acceptable in the eyes of God and allow it into their midst with no correction or admonition...that is when I walk away and get as far away as I can from them. I do not consider those kinds of people God followers. Sin should never be "tolerated" by anyone who claims to follow God.
I respect that answer but I am not tallking about fighting culture or forcing our beliefs. I am only referring to the mind set of some Christians dealing with pragmatism.
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Old 10-16-2009, 07:35 AM
 
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We are Godly people living in a "Secular" society and they don't like being told what to do by people who follow God. It also doesn't help when we have churches that allow "sin" to dwell in their midst for the sake of tolerance. When Christians start calling "sin" good and acceptable in the eyes of God and allow it into their midst with no correction or admonition...that is when I walk away and get as far away as I can from them. I do not consider those kinds of people God followers. Sin should never be "tolerated" by anyone who claims to follow God.
Amen!!

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Old 10-16-2009, 07:35 AM
 
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We cant say that we can do evil that good may come...

So that is the over-all guide.

But in the real world we also have to pick with care what battles we fight.
I also believe in the concept of "close enough, lets move on"
I am not talking about fighting battles. I allow the world to run the way it wants to run-I don't get caught up in politics etc..... I am talking about how dangerous pragmatism can be in the church today. Gay adoption is just one of many topics. Can this spill into scripture as well?
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Old 10-16-2009, 07:38 AM
 
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I respect that answer but I am not tallking about fighting culture or forcing our beliefs. I am only referring to the mind set of some Christians dealing with pragmatism.
Like I said...when someone who claims to be a "Christian" allows sin to dwell in their midst and calls it good...I don't consider that person to be a true God follower. Just because someone calls themselves a Christian, that doesn't make them one anymore than me sitting in my garage makes me a car....see what I mean. We all want to do what's right and treat people fairly but we cannot comprosmise with sin for the sake of tolerance.
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Old 10-16-2009, 07:44 AM
 
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I understand that but how does that affect our decisions as Christians?
If you are considering something prayerfully, the hope is that God is affecting our decisions. What will obviously have a huge influence on you is what your perception is of God and Christianity. If you (collective you) see Christianity as a set of rules and regulations to follow, then that is what you will base your decisions on: how can you least offend God. If you see that Christ set us free to live according to the perfect law of liberty you will see things from a position of love ("tough love" even) which seeks the best for people and is a very different perspective than a "rule-keeper".


I don't believe that there is a one size fits all answer to your question. For every individual situation, we each need to let the Spirit lead us, and have the desire that, day by day, we become more in tune with the Father's heart.
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Old 10-16-2009, 07:59 AM
 
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Sorry, not totally about you, however you were a catalyst in this discussion with someone else (we really didn't have a dicussion-I sent two posts your way )
Ah, my mistake. Sorry.
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Old 10-16-2009, 08:02 AM
 
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If you are considering something prayerfully, the hope is that God is affecting our decisions. What will obviously have a huge influence on you is what your perception is of God and Christianity. If you (collective you) see Christianity as a set of rules and regulations to follow, then that is what you will base your decisions on: how can you least offend God. If you see that Christ set us free to live according to the perfect law of liberty you will see things from a position of love ("tough love" even) which seeks the best for people and is a very different perspective than a "rule-keeper".


I don't believe that there is a one size fits all answer to your question. For every individual situation, we each need to let the Spirit lead us, and have the desire that, day by day, we become more in tune with the Father's heart.
Why not, would not scripture be the final judge?
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Old 10-16-2009, 08:05 AM
 
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Why not, would not scripture be the final judge?
The final "judge" is whether or not one is perceiving Scripture with the mind of Christ, the Spirit's leading.
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Old 10-16-2009, 08:07 AM
 
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The final "judge" is whether or not one is perceiving Scripture with the mind of Christ, the Spirit's leading.
so are you saying, we should rethink stealing, adultery? etc.....
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