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Old 09-16-2018, 07:15 AM
 
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If all of this is happens in our times, you have to wonder where America fits into these prophecies, its hard to imagine such global events taking place and the US not being involved in some large way.


Rev 16--With 3 inspired expressions. Satan misleads EVERY kingdom( govt, armies, supporters) on earth to stand against Gods king.-- 3 inspired expressions like 3 9/11,s hitting the mortal heart at once to stand in patriotism for the flag of their country. It will look good to the mortal heart to do just that-2Cor 11:12-15--The image of the beast has been made to look-GOOD to the mortal heart as well. And the result is found at Daniel 2:44--Jesus will crush every mortal govt out of existence and all who support them. That makes each countries flag= a graven image. An image that will stand against Jesus.
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Old 09-16-2018, 11:34 AM
 
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Rev 16--With 3 inspired expressions. Satan misleads EVERY kingdom (govt, armies, supporters) on earth to stand against Gods king.-- 3 inspired expressions like 3 9/11,s hitting the mortal heart at once to stand in patriotism for the flag of their country. It will look good to the mortal heart to do just that-2Cor 11:12-15--The image of the beast has been made to look-GOOD to the mortal heart as well. And the result is found at Daniel 2:44--Jesus will crush every mortal govt out of existence and all who support them. That makes each countries flag= a graven image. An image that will stand against Jesus.
The doctrines of the Jehovah Witnesses (i.e., no flag waiving, no blood transfusions, and no Christmas).
I will never forget their faces, when I walked into their building with hair that touched the waistline.

I was seventeen at the time.
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Old 09-16-2018, 01:28 PM
 
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The Territorial Empire Of The Antichrist Is Already Forming

Since Israel's rebirth in 1948, most of the Arab oil producing countries have refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist as a nation. The Arab nations have attacked Israel continuously since 1948, in an attempt to destroy Israel as a nation. Israel has continued to exist because of Israel's military power, and the current threat of Israel's nuclear power. On every occasion that the Arab nations have attacked Israel, the Arab nations have suffered a humiliating defeat. At the time of the "seven year covenant," the Antichrist will be forced to negotiate with Israel, because Israel will remain a military and nuclear power until the time that the peace agreement is actually signed. In developing his coalition of power, the Antichrist will not personally want to recognize Israel as a nation, but will be forced to, because of Israel's military and nuclear power. The "seven year covenant" will necessitate an agreement among Arab oil producing countries, to allow the re-establishment of daily sacrifice by the Jewish people. The Antichrist will be forced to recognize Israel as a nation, and will allow the Jewish people to practice their religion by re-establishing daily sacrifice.
The formation of nations, that agree to the "covenant" that allows the re-establishment of daily sacrifice by the Jewish people, is a coalition of seven "Judeo-Christian" world leaders or kings, allied with the False Prophet (Pope); and ten Arab/Muslim countries, allied with the Antichrist.
Revelation 12:3 (NIV) Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads.
Revelation 13:1 (NIV) And the dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.
Revelation 17:3 (NIV) Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a desert. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns.
Daniel 7:19-22 (NIV) "Then I wanted to know the true meaning of the fourth beast, which was different from all the others and most terrifying, with its iron teeth and bronze claws--the beast that crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left. 20 I also wanted to know about the ten horns on its head and about the other horn that came up, before which three of them fell--the horn that looked more imposing than the others and that had eyes and a mouth that spoke boastfully. 21 As I watched, this horn was waging war against the saints and defeating them, 22 until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom.
We are given the definition within the Word of God, of "horns", and "heads":
Daniel 7:24 (NIV) The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings.
Revelation 17:12-13 (NIV) "The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast.13 They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast.
Revelation 17:9-11 (NIV) "This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. 10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for a little while. 11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.
The seven heads, and ten horns, are kings or countries that will be involved in the empire of the Antichrist. The seven heads, and ten horns, are referred to as two separate parts of the whole. The reason that these are always referenced in this manner, is that they will never fully blend into a single unit. The seven heads will be represented by "Judeo-Christian" kings or countries, allied with the False Prophet (Pope). The ten horns, are Islamic kings or countries allied with the Antichrist.
The four ancient world empires were created militarily. Historically, whoever controlled the world's military, controlled the world. Today, whoever controls the world's oil, controls the world. Today, with some maneuvering, O. P. E. C. could control the world. After negotiating the covenant that will allow the re-establishment of daily sacrifice, the Antichrist will start his rise to complete world leadership, by gaining control of a percentage of the world's oil. This will catapult the Antichrist to world power, as he cripples and extorts the world financially. Once he gains a percentage of the world's oil, he will control the world. From that point, the Antichrist will direct a One World Government, that will include the Mark of the Beast:
Revelation 13:16-18 (NIV) He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17 so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. 18 This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.
In knowing that the Antichrist will be the King of Syria, some light has already been shed on other countries that will ultimately be involved in the kingdom of the Antichrist:
Daniel 8:9 (NIV) Out of one of them came another horn, which started small but grew in power to the south and to the east and toward the Beautiful Land.
The Beautiful Land is of course Israel.
Saudi Arabia, a Moslem country, is located due south of Syria. It is a huge oil producer, member of O. P. E. C., and must certainly be included in any coalition that would control the oil of the world. Saudi Arabia will be in the kingdom of the Antichrist.
Iraq, a Moslem country, is located due east of Syria. Iraq is also a huge oil producing country, member of O. P. E. C., and will also be included in the kingdom of the Antichrist.
Lebanon is the only country that is directly "toward the Beautiful Land" from Syria, and has already fallen to the King of Syria. The territorial empire of the Antichrist is already forming, evidenced by the fall of Lebanon to the King of Syria. The undisputed fact that Syria controls the insurgency in Iraq, portends that Syria will gain control of Iraq, as soon as the "peace agreement" is signed. The Saudi royal family recognizes how tenuous their control is over Saudi Arabia, and they are nervously placing "golden parachutes" all around the globe in anticipation of potentially losing their country. The Saudi royal family will lose their country.
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The coalition of Saudi Arabia and Iraq, is adequate to completely cripple the world when they ration oil. Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Lebanon, are the three horns that will fall to the King of Syria.
This is so true, especially if America does not produce it's own oil, it will cripple us. What good is firepower when you have no oil for military machinery. (ships, tanks, copters, jets, planes, etc.) Not to mention the ripple effect of this.
Daniel 7:8 (NIV) "While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth that spoke boastfully.
Daniel 7:20 (NIV) I also wanted to know about the ten horns on its head and about the other horn that came up, before which three of them fell--the horn that looked more imposing than the others and that had eyes and a mouth that spoke boastfully.
Daniel 7:24 (NIV) The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings.
Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Iran, combined with Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, and the Sinai Peninsula, is the area described as being actual historic Syria by the martyred Antun Saada, of the Syrian Social Nationalist Party. It is the present goal of the Syrian Social Nationalist Party to bring these independent countries back together into the Syrian State.
The Antichrist will also gain control of the Moslem countries of Egypt, Libya, and Sudan (in which is the Nubian Desert).
Daniel 11:42-43 (NIV) He will extend his power over many countries; Egypt will not escape. 43 He will gain control of the treasures of gold and silver and all the riches of Egypt, with the Libyans and Nubians in submission.
The Antichrist will not control the Moslem country of Jordan (Edom, Moab, and Ammon), which has made a treaty and peace with Israel. Jordan is protected by God, because Jordan contains Petra. Petra is the place that has been prepared by God, for the Jewish people to flee to, after the Antichrist sets himself up in the Temple in Jerusalem.
Daniel 11:41 (NIV) He will also invade the Beautiful Land. Many countries will fall, but Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from his hand.
Though Egypt has a treaty with Israel, Egypt has maintained adversarial "peace."

Please all info welcomed, tell me what you think.
Not so much...All this stuff in Daniel has already taken place...
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Old 09-16-2018, 01:33 PM
 
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Not so much...All this stuff in Daniel has already taken place...
So, what period of time are we in right now?
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Old 09-16-2018, 01:37 PM
 
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So, what period of time are we in right now?
The period of waiting for the Mashiach to finally come...
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Old 09-16-2018, 02:11 PM
 
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The period of waiting for the Mashiach to finally come...
The Jews will think the antichrist is their Mashiach, per Daniel the prophet.
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Old 09-17-2018, 04:06 AM
 
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The Jews will think the antichrist is their Mashiach, per Daniel the prophet.

That is because G-d told us the attributes of the Mashiach will be, which is exactly what Revelation claims the AC will be...

How can you be sure that Satan did not inspire someone to write Revelation in order to test people to see if they really desire to know the truth and inspired that person to detail the attributes of the AC to mirror the attributes of the Jewish Mashiach to see if you will truly pursue the truth or just accept indoctrination?...

Nah, Daniel already occurred...And Daniel is not prophecy that’s why it is not in the Nevi’im but in the Ktuvi’im...
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Old 09-17-2018, 02:37 PM
 
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The Jews will think the antichrist is their Mashiach, per Daniel the prophet.
Per Daniel the. prophet Christians accepted a lawless, pagan Gentile who is the lawless one.

You follow the lawless one.
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Old 09-17-2018, 03:33 PM
 
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What is the significance of the 10 horns. Are they world governments that are now forming such as this:


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...blished-europe
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Old 09-17-2018, 05:42 PM
 
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So, what period of time are we in right now?
I would say we are in the ' last days ' of badness on Earth as described at 2nd Timothy 3:1-5,13.
People displaying a selfish distorted form of love which is the opposite of godly love as per 1st Corinthians 13:4-6.
Since these are the last days before the 'first day' of calendar Day One of Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth begins, then what seems to be a sunset on this failing system is really a bright sunrise for those of Matthew 25:37. We are nearing a soon coming ' time of separation ' on Earth as per Matthew 25:31-33 when Jesus will separate people, placing the figurative humble ' sheep'-like people at his right hand of favor. They can remain alive on Earth and continue to live on Earth right into the beginning of Jesus' millennium-long day of governing over Earth in righteousness.
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