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Old 10-24-2009, 10:49 PM
 
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Daniel 12:2

Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.
You should research this, because sleep refers to the body, and not the soul.

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John 3:13

No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven- the Son of Man.
At the time that Jesus said it, that was true, BECAUSE no one was allowed into Heaven until Christ had been resurrected, ascended, and seated at the right hand of God the Father. Now that the resurrected Christ is in Heaven, those who have died in Christ go into the presence of the Lord. That was the purpose of the veil in the temple being torn by God Himself, from top to bottom at the moment that Christ died. It meant that the Holy of Holies, the throne room of God was now open to those who have died in Christ.
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Old 10-24-2009, 11:00 PM
 
Location: UPSTATE SC
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You should research this, because sleep refers to the body, and not the soul.



At the time that Jesus said it, that was true, BECAUSE no one was allowed into Heaven until Christ had been resurrected, ascended, and seated at the right hand of God the Father. Now that the resurrected Christ is in Heaven, those who have died in Christ go into the presence of the Lord. That was the purpose of the veil in the temple being torn by God Himself, from top to bottom at the moment that Christ died. It meant that the Holy of Holies, the throne room of God was now open to those who have died in Christ.
John 5: 28-30 (NIV)

Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out – those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned. By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgement is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
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Old 10-24-2009, 11:21 PM
 
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John 5: 28-30 (NIV)

Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out – those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned. By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgement is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
If you will, please look at this website:

Soul sleep
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Old 10-25-2009, 12:43 AM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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If you will, please look at this website:

Soul sleep
I think all websites are evil... that is my interpretation.. LOL
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Old 10-25-2009, 01:09 AM
 
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If you will, please look at this website:

Soul sleep
If you will,please look at this website


http://bible-truths.com/death.htm

or this one


Are the Dead Conscious or Asleep? - Here a little, there a little - Commentary


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Old 10-25-2009, 04:06 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Orthodoxy is nothing less than the propagation of the Adversary’s lie. In seeking to deny death, however, it also denies the possibility of resurrection. To make alive that which already has life should not call forth much effort. Yet resurrection is set forth as the mightiest exhibition of God’s great power. And everywhere it is insisted that it is the resurrection from the dead.

concordant in-depth studies:

biblical studies: What Is The Soul?

biblical studies: What Is Death?

biblical studies: The Soul and the Unseen
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Old 10-25-2009, 07:17 PM
 
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Yes, the Scriptures teach soul sleep. It's much easier to understand when one studies the translation of the term hell in the Word, which means the grave.
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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You should research this, because sleep refers to the body, and not the soul.



At the time that Jesus said it, that was true, BECAUSE no one was allowed into Heaven until Christ had been resurrected, ascended, and seated at the right hand of God the Father. Now that the resurrected Christ is in Heaven, those who have died in Christ go into the presence of the Lord. That was the purpose of the veil in the temple being torn by God Himself, from top to bottom at the moment that Christ died. It meant that the Holy of Holies, the throne room of God was now open to those who have died in Christ.
Above shows just how faulty your logic and dispensational views are. Has the resurrection occurred yet in your view? No, because according to your view, it does not occur until Christs return (and He hasn't returned yet in your view)...that means you go to Hades not Heaven....huge difference.

If you are going to beat to death everyone with the dispensensational view you should, at the very least, keep your view straight.
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:24 AM
 
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I didnt ask that...

I asked if you know of any church in the phone book that teaches this idea?

Or is it something that you have found that no one else you can name has found too?
LOL.

I have no idea what all the churches in the phone book teach. But from this thread alone, you can see there are plenty of people who believe that soul sleep is biblical.
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:59 PM
 
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Above shows just how faulty your logic and dispensational views are. Has the resurrection occurred yet in your view? No, because according to your view, it does not occur until Christs return (and He hasn't returned yet in your view)...that means you go to Hades not Heaven....huge difference.

If you are going to beat to death everyone with the dispensensational view you should, at the very least, keep your view straight.
Do you realize what you just said?

What I said was that once Jesus Christ was resurrected, and ascended, and seated at the right hand of God the Father, then Heaven was open to those who have died in Christ.

Now, what you just said is that I inferred that Heaven isn't open to believers until the second advent of Christ.

What I posted was completely clear, with no room for misinterpreting what I said. And yet, in your attempts to ridicule me and ridicule dispensations, you manufactured a complete distortion of what I wrote and then accused me of faulty logic based upon your purposeful distortion of what I wrote.

For those wondering, this is in reference to post #88. Actually, post #81.
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