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Old 11-04-2010, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Am I the only one who knows what I'm talking about with the cop and the brownies and the freak-out? no? I must be youtubing too much.
I remember that one. My husband told me about it, but I thought he was joking.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJynLFgXUN4

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I can never work out why those folk who caught the woman in adultery wanted her stoned .
Lol. Good one, pcamps.

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I would outlaw alcohol in a minute; it's ten times as bad as pot.

SAFER - Alcohol vs. Marijuana
I would do the same. I've been debating this with people for years. I would much rather be around somebody high on MJ than be around an obnoxious drunk who thinks he can drive. My dad was an alcoholic and he was downright nasty when he drank. Mean as could be. He started fights, pissed everybody off, and ended up falling down so hard on the sidewalk one day that he broke his jaw. Very sad. I would have much rather had him smoking pot. He might have been much easier to be around. He asked about pot one time, and he made it sound like it was so bad. He looked nervous talking about it. He grew up in the 50s and I'm sure the brainwashing in the schools and whatever must have taken their toll on his young mind. He couldn't seem to think rationally about the subject at all.

I actually would like to conduct an experiment. I would take a list of the side effects of psych drugs, alcohol, and marijuana and put them on a piece of paper. I would ask people to vote on which drugs they would ban based on the side affects, and then I would uncover what the drug was. I can almost guarantee you that people would have voted to ban most psych drugs and alcohol before they voted to ban pot.

Here is an anti-drug clip from the 1950s. I guess the phrase "marijuana is a gateway drug" came from this time, as all of the clips I can find from the 50s and 60s lump all the drugs together (LSD, marijuana, heroin), which I think is ridiculous. Midway through the clip the kid standing in front of the judge claims it all started because he smoked MJ.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK-xB2IBxfo



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On the other hand, you don't want all of your citizens completely unmotivated and high. The clip below is from the Big Bang Theory where 3 of the guys (nerdy scientists) go out to watch a meteor shower. Two of them go to the next campsite to see if they can find women to hang out with, but they only come back with some cookies (no women), which they eat. The rest of the clip shows them getting hungrier and hungrier, and they end up missing the meteor shower because they forgot why they were out there in the first place.

Raj~~~If I could speak the language of rabbits they would be amazed and I would be their king. I would be kind to my rabbit subjects, at first. One day I hold a great ball for the president of France, but the rabbits, they hate me and don't come. I'm embarrassed so I eat all the lettuce in the world and make them watch.

Howard~~~To this day I can't look at pickled herring without being aroused and ashamed.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R73yElC2BDc
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Old 11-04-2010, 03:31 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I would say yes. I don't like it anyways so it doesn't matter.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:07 PM
 
Location: RV Park
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If the young voters in California had kept their promise to turn out, Prop 19 would've passed.
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:29 AM
 
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Drunkeness is the sin, not drinking wine. If you can smoke Marijuana without getting intoxicated, it isn't a sin. Can you do that?
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Old 11-07-2010, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Drunkeness is the sin, not drinking wine. If you can smoke Marijuana without getting intoxicated, it isn't a sin. Can you do that?
I agree entirely that drunkenness is the sin, and not drinking alcohol.

I can drink one glass of wine and not be drunk. I can drink two glasses of wine and not be drunk.

It is my understanding that one hit of marijuana will not make you instantly intoxicated, just as one glass of wine will not make you intoxicated.



However my parents are different. To them one hit of marijuana instantly puts a heroin syringe into your veins [and makes you a communist].
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Old 11-07-2010, 04:59 PM
 
Location: East Coast
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I agree entirely that drunkenness is the sin, and not drinking alcohol.

I can drink one glass of wine and not be drunk. I can drink two glasses of wine and not be drunk.

It is my understanding that one hit of marijuana will not make you instantly intoxicated, just as one glass of wine will not make you intoxicated.



However my parents are different. To them one hit of marijuana instantly puts a heroin syringe into your veins [and makes you a communist].
Believe me one hit can make you stoned, on the alcohol intake,how regular you drink dictates how quickly you get drunk,i'm still pretty sensible after a litre of good red wine
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Old 11-07-2010, 07:01 PM
 
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I agree entirely that drunkenness is the sin, and not drinking alcohol.

I can drink one glass of wine and not be drunk. I can drink two glasses of wine and not be drunk.

It is my understanding that one hit of marijuana will not make you instantly intoxicated, just as one glass of wine will not make you intoxicated.



However my parents are different. To them one hit of marijuana instantly puts a heroin syringe into your veins [and makes you a communist].
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:10 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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Catching a buzz is not a sin. The bible does say that "drunkeness" is a sin but I take this to mean drinking one's self into a stupor or to the point that one may do something that would hurt another or ones self.
What would be the purpose of drinking wine or anything else if not to be relaxed and merry?
I feel the same way about marijuana.
If it is enjoyed privatly and responsibly by adults - why not?
The puritanical attitude of most fundies on the issue of drinking is a function of the Victorian time period when many of these holiness denominations began too take a strong holdd particularly with the underclasses, where excessive drinking was the cause of spousal abuse, child abuse and poverty.
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:34 PM
 
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Believe me one hit can make you stoned, on the alcohol intake,how regular you drink dictates how quickly you get drunk,i'm still pretty sensible after a litre of good red wine
You boozer!--
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:42 PM
 
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Catching a buzz is not a sin. The bible does say that "drunkeness" is a sin but I take this to mean drinking one's self into a stupor or to the point that one may do something that would hurt another or ones self.
What would be the purpose of drinking wine or anything else if not to be relaxed and merry?
I feel the same way about marijuana.
If it is enjoyed privatly and responsibly by adults - why not?
The puritanical attitude of most fundies on the issue of drinking is a function of the Victorian time period when many of these holiness denominations began too take a strong holdd particularly with the underclasses, where excessive drinking was the cause of spousal abuse, child abuse and poverty.
Some good points. Interestingly, regarding the consumption of alcohol, I came across this:
Matthew 11:19 (NIV)
The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’

Evidently Jesus enjoyed indulging a bit of wine, probably in moderation but enough to feel pretty jolly. And then there was also the incident about 'turning' water into wine.

Regarding marijuana, although nothing is specified about it, there is a statement concerning plants:
Genesis 9:3 (NIV)
Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.

I would presume that also includes plants of medicinal value as well as for relaxation and feeling good.
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