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Old 10-21-2009, 09:07 AM
 
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It sounds like you are saying that "love" is something distinct from keeping God's commandments.

On the contrary...

1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me


One of Satan's great deceptions is that the love of God is something different from keeping His commandments. Which leads to the mindset that I could love God even though I am breaking His commandments.
She didn't say that at all; that is your interpretation of what she said.

Matthew 22:36-40:

36Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38This is the first and great commandment.

39And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

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Romans 13:10:

10Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
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Old 10-21-2009, 03:12 PM
 
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Our entire relationship with God is based on LOVE!!! . . . NOT being mindless ROBOTS or "PETS."
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Old 10-21-2009, 03:30 PM
 
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"If you love Me, you'll keep my commandments."

This statement is interpreted two different ways by those bound by the law (A), and those who live by grace (B).

(A) Your love is not proven unless you obey the law.

(B) By loving Him, you look back and realize that His grace has worked in you and fulfilled the law, automatically if you will.

The whole point of the Christian life is to be emptied of oneself, and be filled with Him (Tabernacles). His life in you fulfills the law (Mat 5:17). We are admonished to keep the law, but forbidden to live under it. This is what Romans 6 is all about - we live under grace, keeping the law.

All because of His life in us - that's the focus.
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Old 10-21-2009, 03:35 PM
 
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"If you love Me, you'll keep my commandments."

This statement is interpreted two different ways by those bound by the law (A), and those who live by grace (B).

(A) Your love is not proven unless you obey the law.

(B) By loving Him, you look back and realize that His grace has worked in you and fulfilled the law, automatically if you will.

The whole point of the Christian life is to be emptied of oneself, and be filled with Him (Tabernacles). His life in you fulfills the law (Mat 5:17). We are admonished to keep the law, but forbidden to live under it. This is what Romans 6 is all about - we live under grace, keeping the law.

All because of His life in us - that's the focus.
Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-21-2009, 03:40 PM
 
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"If you love Me, you'll keep my commandments."

This statement is interpreted two different ways by those bound by the law (A), and those who live by grace (B).

(A) Your love is not proven unless you obey the law.

(B) By loving Him, you look back and realize that His grace has worked in you and fulfilled the law, automatically if you will.

The whole point of the Christian life is to be emptied of oneself, and be filled with Him (Tabernacles). His life in you fulfills the law (Mat 5:17). We are admonished to keep the law, but forbidden to live under it. This is what Romans 6 is all about - we live under grace, keeping the law.

All because of His life in us - that's the focus.
Those who live under the law...will be judged by the law.
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Old 10-21-2009, 04:20 PM
 
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Default Your entire relationship with God is based upon OBEDIENCE!?!?!

No, it's not.
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Old 10-21-2009, 04:25 PM
 
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No, it's not.
Amen and pass the Cheetos!!
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Old 10-21-2009, 04:40 PM
 
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No, it's not.
I started to say that "if that was the case, where does 'while we were yet in sin, Christ died' fit?".

Seriously, love urges us to obey - any babe in Christ knows that. If we get past the milk and take up the meat though, we see that His life in us causes us to please Him. There's your variable: not all of us are at the same place in our walks, and there are various ratios of flesh/spirit.

John's epistle tells us that what is born of God sins not, but we deceive ourselves if we say we're without sin. Is it a mystery how this is so? Christ's seed in you is holy, and cannot sin; as it grows, you become more and more faithful. The rest of you? Rotten to the core. >>>Only to the degree that His life dwells in you, are you faithful.<<<

Sorry.
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Old 10-21-2009, 04:45 PM
 
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If you love God, then you know He hates sin. He absolutely abhors it. He proved it when he cast Adam & Eve out of the Garden over one willful sin. He proved it when He turned His back on the rebellious house of Israel. Therefore, since you have studied His word to know this fact, you will yield to Jesus so He can purge all sin out of you. Jesus spilled His precious divine blood on the cross to deliver you from that which cannot stand before God, sin; not to simply cover sin up, but to deliver you from committing willful sin anymore. Your love for God will move you into obedience, not sin.

Jesus loved us so much that He willingly poured out His divine blood so that we can be made completely over; this is not simply turning over a new leaf, but made completely new into God's holy image. You must born of the water of the word and of His Spirit; a new creature in Christ Jesus.
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Old 10-21-2009, 04:53 PM
 
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I started to say that "if that was the case, where does 'while we were yet in sin, Christ died' fit?".

Seriously, love urges us to obey - any babe in Christ knows that. If we get past the milk and take up the meat though, we see that His life in us causes us to please Him. There's your variable: not all of us are at the same place in our walks, and there are various ratios of flesh/spirit.

John's epistle tells us that what is born of God sins not, but we deceive ourselves if we say we're without sin. Is it a mystery how this is so? Christ's seed in you is holy, and cannot sin; as it grows, you become more and more faithful. The rest of you? Rotten to the core. >>>Only to the degree that His life dwells in you, are you faithful.<<<

Sorry.
I absolutely agree with you here...and some who post don't realize that as they try to espouse their views on the whole of Christianity. We all mature at different times...some are still stuck in the "simple faith" while others have moved on.
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