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Old 11-29-2009, 07:38 PM
 
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2And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
Temporally....that is where your deductive reasoning fails......
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Old 11-29-2009, 07:41 PM
 
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No you believe God chose you , you cannot have it both ways
Grow up....
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Old 11-29-2009, 07:48 PM
 
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Temporally....that is where your deductive reasoning fails......
You may believe in a god whose mercy fails but i do not.His mercy endures forever because that's His nature.It's a shame christians cannot believe He is.
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Old 11-29-2009, 07:50 PM
 
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Grow up....
Grow up ?????????? you believe God chose some for salvation and some for damnation, then in the next breathe you accredit your salvation to you believing in Jesus, and you are telling me to grow up , you have got to be kidding ,

Which one is it ? God chose you for salvation ? or you believed unto salvation ? . I think you need to rethink what you believe , because believing God chose you and believing you are saved because you believed is contradictory.

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Old 11-29-2009, 08:01 PM
 
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He was not makibg a statement, He was making a point....
I haven't a clue what you are talking about, and I'm not sure you do either ...You sound spiritually constipated my friend...LOL I recommend two doses of the Gospel for this ailment!

Better yet, take a full teaspoon of repentance and then both doses of the Gospel...LOL
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:08 PM
 
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not Hogwash....So, what if christ hadn't died on the Cross? what then?
But Christ did die and it was foreknown He would before the foundation of the world:

1Pe 1:19 but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and unspotted--Christ's--
1Pe 1:20 foreknown, indeed, before the foundation of the world, and manifested in the last times because of you,

Abraham believed the Gospel just like us. He was saved just like us. And he was not saved by any law or works.
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:23 PM
 
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Just because you proclaim it to all creation does not mean all creation is going to respond.........
It isn't the proclamation of words that makes it good news, it's what the proclamation tells us was accomplished! My question to you was rhetorical, hoping that it would shame you into seeing what it says. I guess not...LOL Therefore, I'll answer it for you.

Yes, the Gospel is good news for all creation.

And why is that?

Because it is applicable for all, to all creation.

And how so?

Because Christ died for all:

Rom 6:10 For in that He died, He died to sin once for all; but in that He lives, He lives to God.

2Co 5:14 for the love of the Christ doth constrain us, having judged thus: that if one for all died, then the whole died,

Believe it my friend, it's the Gospel and it's true.
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:30 PM
 
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It isn't the proclamation of words that makes it good news, it's what the proclamation tells us was accomplished! My question to you was rhetorical, hoping that it would shame you into seeing what it says. I guess not...LOL Therefore, I'll answer it for you.

Yes, the Gospel is good news for all creation.

And why is that?

Because it is applicable for all, to all creation.

And how so?

Because Christ died for all:

Rom 6:10 For in that He died, He died to sin once for all; but in that He lives, He lives to God.

2Co 5:14 for the love of the Christ doth constrain us, having judged thus: that if one for all died, then the whole died,

Believe it my friend, it's the Gospel and it's true.
Amen Alabama
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Old 11-29-2009, 09:19 PM
 
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It isn't the proclamation of words that makes it good news, it's what the proclamation tells us was accomplished! My question to you was rhetorical, hoping that it would shame you into seeing what it says. I guess not...LOL Therefore, I'll answer it for you.

Yes, the Gospel is good news for all creation.

And why is that?

Because it is applicable for all, to all creation.

And how so?

Because Christ died for all:

Rom 6:10 For in that He died, He died to sin once for all; but in that He lives, He lives to God.

2Co 5:14 for the love of the Christ doth constrain us, having judged thus: that if one for all died, then the whole died,

Believe it my friend, it's the Gospel and it's true.
Indeed, amen ... Praise God for his tender mercies and loving Kindness which never fails ...
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:26 AM
 
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Don't care about your Buts......

Not absurd, are you one of those folks that think everything applies to you regardless of who the scriptures are being addressed to?...Now, That's absurd....
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