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June's back with yet another one of her "I don't get it" questions.
June keeps on reading about adherence to some "Law" at the same time that she reads about "faith." These two things aren't exactly in synch with one another. Here's where June is getting hung up:
If an individual is continually focused on strict adherence to a "Law" or set of laws, then that would seem to imply a rigid set of instructions for which there was either a correct thought and action, or a wrong one. It strikes June that it doesn't leave a whole lot of 'wiggle room.' When compared or set side by side to the notion of "faith" the two concepts seem to completely contradict one another. At least for June.
In June's mind, from what she has more or less gleaned, faith would imply a letting go, a trusting, and a willingness to give way to whatever one would define as the 'spirit' that exists on a deeply intuitive level. It would appear to call for an openness that cannot exist without some degree of implied risk.
In June's mind, there is no risk involved in strictly adhering to a highly structured, item-by-item set of rules, laws. So here are June's 'just June' atheist-driven, "just-not-getting-it" questions:
-How is this whole notion of "Law" reconciled with that of "faith?"
-Since it strikes June as utterly absurd that love can in any way be fully contained within the confines of a specific set of 'rules,' then how does the notion of a loving God fit in with that? How does your ability to love anyone fit in with that? June has loved, been in love, and does love. -But in June's mind and heart, her willingness to love someone tends to diminish when it is controlled, demanded, and/or when otherwise harsh restrictions are placed on that love. (Example: "I will love you back, June, and fully accept you June, only if you do the following....") How is it, then, that June should 'contractually love?'
-How do you guys reconcile this whole notion of the "Spirit" guiding, leading you to God, when by definition it would seem to June that a spirit (be it of love, the Holy Spirit, or that of another) cannot be contained, defined, or executed via a code of rules? It appears to be far too open to interpretation. If there truly exists that "quiet inner voice" that you keep referring to, how come it doesn't speak a whole lot louder in it's very specific set of instructions and rules?
-Or does it? Does it really?
Please know that June is merely interested in better understanding the answers to the above queries that strike June as utter contradictions. June merely wants to understand. -But to do so hopefully with some degree of peacefulness.
Thanks in advance from the little heathen who once again thinks to herself "June just doesn't get it."
They really don't have anything to do with each other
June I believe the law is done with for Christians but it doesn't mean we can sin but when we surrender and put our trust in Him then we want to keep the law because now we love Him and want to please Him, the law was for the individual to make them realize they are a sinner and in need of a saviour therefore it brings us to the cross on bended knees and we surrender to Christ but it also humbles the Christian.
Faith is a gift from God. Faith is not something we use or generate ourselves, it is the opposite God uses our faith in order to get the best usefulness out of us for His purpose and His glory.
All what you are saying, is the result of one being saved, they are all gifts granted to us by God and evidenced that we are Christians.
June's back with yet another one of her "I don't get it" questions.
June keeps on reading about adherence to some "Law" at the same time that she reads about "faith." These two things aren't exactly in synch with one another. Here's where June is getting hung up:
If an individual is continually focused on strict adherence to a "Law" or set of laws, then that would seem to imply a rigid set of instructions for which there was either a correct thought and action, or a wrong one. It strikes June that it doesn't leave a whole lot of 'wiggle room.' When compared or set side by side to the notion of "faith" the two concepts seem to completely contradict one another. At least for June.
In June's mind, from what she has more or less gleaned, faith would imply a letting go, a trusting, and a willingness to give way to whatever one would define as the 'spirit' that exists on a deeply intuitive level. It would appear to call for an openness that cannot exist without some degree of implied risk.
In June's mind, there is no risk involved in strictly adhering to a highly structured, item-by-item set of rules, laws. So here are June's 'just June' atheist-driven, "just-not-getting-it" questions:
-How is this whole notion of "Law" reconciled with that of "faith?"
-Since it strikes June as utterly absurd that love can in any way be fully contained within the confines of a specific set of 'rules,' then how does the notion of a loving God fit in with that? How does your ability to love anyone fit in with that? June has loved, been in love, and does love. -But in June's mind and heart, her willingness to love someone tends to diminish when it is controlled, demanded, and/or when otherwise harsh restrictions are placed on that love. (Example: "I will love you back, June, and fully accept you June, only if you do the following....") How is it, then, that June should 'contractually love?'
-How do you guys reconcile this whole notion of the "Spirit" guiding, leading you to God, when by definition it would seem to June that a spirit (be it of love, the Holy Spirit, or that of another) cannot be contained, defined, or executed via a code of rules? It appears to be far too open to interpretation. If there truly exists that "quiet inner voice" that you keep referring to, how come it doesn't speak a whole lot louder in it's very specific set of instructions and rules?
-Or does it? Does it really?
Please know that June is merely interested in better understanding the answers to the above queries that strike June as utter contradictions. June merely wants to understand. -But to do so hopefully with some degree of peacefulness.
Thanks in advance from the little heathen who once again thinks to herself "June just doesn't get it."
Take gentle care.
Don't feel bad that you just don't get it because there are a lot of Christians that "just don't get it"...they think if they follow all the rules and commandments that they are somehow pleasing God...it's not their fault...it's just the way they've been taught. All of Gods commandments can be summed up into one thing...LOVE.
What some don't understand is that when God calls us or draws us to Himself, He instills in us a new heart and along with Gods Spirit working in us we can change into the people God has called us to be...we can be One with God. Where faith comes in is where we have to surrender "ALL" to God and have complete trust and faith in Him to change us...for we cannot do it on our own. God instills in us his spiritual Law...it is written in our hearts...following Gods commandments come and they all boil down to LOVE. This type of love is not your ordinary "I'm in love" love....this is pure and umblemished Godly love. Imagine the love you have for your children....God's love is more infinite than that. If we truly surrender ourselves over to God to change us, we will see the world as God sees the world, we will see people as God sees people...this is not easy to achieve nor is it instant, contrary to what some teach. Walking in love has to be done day by day....some days we fail and others we don't...it is a long learning process, God is our teacher and he will try and test us everyday and as we learn we grow and will be one step closer to perfection and being One with God.
Don't feel bad that you just don't get it because there are a lot of Christians that "just don't get it"...they think if they follow all the rules and commandments that they are somehow pleasing God...it's not their fault...it's just the way they've been taught. All of Gods commandments can be summed up into one thing...LOVE.
What some don't understand is that when God calls us or draws us to Himself, He instills in us a new heart and along with Gods Spirit working in us we can change into the people God has called us to be...we can be One with God. Where faith comes in is where we have to surrender "ALL" to God and have complete trust and faith in Him to change us...for we cannot do it on our own. God instills in us his spiritual Law...it is written in our hearts...following Gods commandments come and they all boil down to LOVE. This type of love is not your ordinary "I'm in love" love....this is pure and umblemished Godly love. Imagine the love you have for your children....God's love is more infinite than that. If we truly surrender ourselves over to God to change us, we will see the world as God sees the world, we will see people as God sees people...this is not easy to achieve nor is it instant, contrary to what some teach. Walking in love has to be done day by day....some days we fail and others we don't...it is a long learning process, God is our teacher and he will try and test us everyday and as we learn we grow and will be one step closer to perfection and being One with God.
I wouldn't have responded but I believe this was a jab at me and as usual you have it all wrong so I will ask you one question.
Since you are a sinner and still sin then why do you try not to lie anymore?
The law was to civilize the uncivilized who worshipped everything they were afraid of, who had very little morals and who somewhere deep inside them knew that there was a power who controlled nature and sustenance of life..In other words, the law was to prepare them for the Son of the only God who would come to teach and show them that God was not to be feared or appeased by ancient rituals of animal and human sacrifice..The law, the rules of morality are written in the hearts now..and the Holy Spirit reminds us when we err..
JMHO
Don't feel bad that you just don't get it because there are a lot of Christians that "just don't get it"...they think if they follow all the rules and commandments that they are somehow pleasing God...it's not their fault...it's just the way they've been taught. All of Gods commandments can be summed up into one thing...LOVE.
What some don't understand is that when God calls us or draws us to Himself, He instills in us a new heart and along with Gods Spirit working in us we can change into the people God has called us to be...we can be One with God. Where faith comes in is where we have to surrender "ALL" to God and have complete trust and faith in Him to change us...for we cannot do it on our own. God instills in us his spiritual Law...it is written in our hearts...following Gods commandments come and they all boil down to LOVE. This type of love is not your ordinary "I'm in love" love....this is pure and umblemished Godly love. Imagine the love you have for your children....God's love is more infinite than that. If we truly surrender ourselves over to God to change us, we will see the world as God sees the world, we will see people as God sees people...this is not easy to achieve nor is it instant, contrary to what some teach. Walking in love has to be done day by day....some days we fail and others we don't...it is a long learning process, God is our teacher and he will try and test us everyday and as we learn we grow and will be one step closer to perfection and being One with God.
Ah, now this ^ would seem to make sense, even to the 'likes of June!'
*sigh of relief*
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