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Old 10-22-2009, 01:38 PM
 
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Oct. 21 (Bloomberg) -- The Church of England may see a “flood” of traditionalist members moving to the Roman Catholic Church following an offer by Pope Benedict XVI to welcome Anglican priests and worshippers, a religious group said.
The Vatican said yesterday it has set up a special structure to integrate Anglicans and enable the faith’s married priests to become Catholic clerics. “It could well be a flood, provided the terms and conditions are favorable,” said Stephen Parkinson, director of the Anglican traditionalist group Forward in Faith. As many as 1,000 priests could convert, he said today in a telephone interview. “We haven’t seen the fine print yet.”
Pope’s Anglican Move May Prompt ‘Flood’ of Converts, Group Says - Bloomberg.com



Definitely seems to be a good move to bring back the Anglican Church. Though most of them are already to far gone.
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Old 10-22-2009, 02:59 PM
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Pope’s Anglican Move May Prompt ‘Flood’ of Converts, Group Says - Bloomberg.com



Definitely seems to be a good move to bring back the Anglican Church. Though most of them are already to far gone.
What did you mean by "Though most of them are already to far gone."
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Old 10-22-2009, 03:08 PM
 
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I was referring to the liberal side of the church. The side with gay priests.
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Old 10-22-2009, 03:17 PM
 
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Although it's very new, and there is much to be worked ought, my initial feeling is a good one. Maybe this is just what we need.

It might stir things up in a good way.
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:21 PM
 
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I think it has two sides. On one hand, it will get traditionalist use to a different kind of priest, which could be essential down the road. On the other hand, these men were either called to be Anglican priests or they weren't. If they were, why is the Magistrate enabling them to denounce their calling? If they weren't really called, and just thought they were, how do they have a calling to be Roman Catholic priests and are married? That would mean not fitting the requirements of a Roman Catholic priests doesn't necessarily mean God hasn't called you to be one, rather the Magistrate has been blocking you. Overall though, I think it is overdue that we see different kinds of priest so I think it is a good thing from my perspective, but I'm kind of letting my emotions get in the way there. Also, the Church is pretty stern about loyalty...soooo.....what if they don't like where God leads the RCC? Find another one? Make sure the Church doesn't listen? Just some thoughts. If they are happy somewhere else though, we should all be happy for them.
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:27 PM
 
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I think it has two sides. On one hand, it will get traditionalist use to a different kind of priest, which could be essential down the road. On the other hand, these men were either called to be Anglican priests or they weren't. If they were, why is the Magistrate enabling them to denounce their calling? If they weren't really called, and just thought they were, how do they have a calling to be Roman Catholic priests and are married? That would mean not fitting the requirements of a Roman Catholic priests doesn't necessarily mean God hasn't called you to be one, rather the Magistrate has been blocking you. Overall though, I think it is overdue that we see different kinds of priest so I think it is a good thing from my perspective, but I'm kind of letting my emotions get in the way there. Also, the Church is pretty stern about loyalty...soooo.....what if they don't like where God leads the RCC? Find another one? Make sure the Church doesn't listen? Just some thoughts. If they are happy somewhere else though, we should all be happy for them.
Most are not aware, there are currently married roman catholic preists.

Usaully married ministers from other faiths that converted.

If single, they gotta stay that way. ( so far )
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:44 PM
 
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Most are not aware, there are currently married roman catholic preists.

Usaully married ministers from other faiths that converted.

If single, they gotta stay that way. ( so far )
No, I knew that, I'm just saying, the more public it becomes, the more the Churches image changes...and everything has to line up, if it doesn't, it'll fall apart. This Church has a long history of a strong center despite individual weaknesses across the board. If they want this out there now, openly welcoming married priests, we are either saying it is ok to abandon your calling or you could be called to the RCC and be married, if God has been calling married people and the Magistrate has been blocking that, don't you think that's some what of a problem? If you bring something into the light, it's only natural people will look at it. Or, we are seeing a new kind of priestly order on the way and they are testing it out with the safety net of not changing the rules completely.
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:50 PM
 
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No, I knew that, I'm just saying, the more public it becomes, the more the Churches image changes...and everything has to line up, if it doesn't, it'll fall apart. This Church has a long history of a strong center despite individual weaknesses across the board. If they want this out there now, openly welcoming married priests, we are either saying it is ok to abandon your calling or you could be called to the RCC and be married, if God has been calling married people and the Magistrate has been blocking that, don't you think that's some what of a problem? If you bring something into the light, it's only natural people will look at it. Or, we are seeing a new kind of priestly order on the way and they are testing it out with the safety net of not changing the rules completely.

Celibacy is not dogma, it's current doctrine, as I'm sure your aware.

I for one would not be opposed to an order of married preists.

They could have a seperate order for those who sincerely choose a life of celibacy.

I've know too many preists who I personnaly don't believe sincerely grasped the weight of vow of celibacy.

Some I believe though, are genuinely called to it.
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:59 PM
 
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yea, it's kind of sad to think about priests and nuns getting old without a significant other if they long for one, especially with priest rotation, which I think is essential, the Church has to be about the congregation, not the priest, but where's the stability? They'll be leaving their congregation eventually, and have no family of their own outside of the one they were born into. Not to mention the issue with nun's retirement, a whole other mess. Has anyone read Benedict's book? Anything strike you? I doubt I will, so just wondering what you thought of him.
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Old 10-22-2009, 05:06 PM
 
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yea, it's kind of sad to think about priests and nuns getting old without a significant other if they long for one, especially with priest rotation, which I think is essential, the Church has to be about the congregation, not the priest, but where's the stability? They'll be leaving their congregation eventually, and have no family of their own outside of the one they were born into. Not to mention the issue with nun's retirement, a whole other mess. Has anyone read Benedict's book? Anything strike you? I doubt I will, so just wondering what you thought of him.
Not sure which benedict your referring to.

However, I used to visit a retired priest who spent a lifetime providing for others, only to be living in a small room at a local Catholic University.

I was so struck by this that I have named a foundation that assists the retired religious in my will.

This conversation has reminded me, that we ( including me ) should try and visit some of these men and women in their lonely retirements.
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