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Old 10-25-2009, 05:13 AM
 
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BTW I don't think contexty is a word...
Sure it is! As in "This book is just WAY to contexty for me".

Next you'll be claiming that there is no such word as "contextish".
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Old 10-25-2009, 08:39 AM
 
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BTW I don't think contexty
Contexty is the next truthyness
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Old 10-25-2009, 01:20 PM
 
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Rather than list all the absurdities that this thinking eventually leads to . . . I will just list a few of the major ones that expose the illogical and magical thinking, IMO.

1. The entire universe and the earth with all life was created in six 24 hour days around 6,000 years ago.(No comment)

2. The first couple . . . Adam and Eve ANGERED God because they disobeyed Him about some fruit.(Come on! God can't get angry . . . let alone over something like this!)

3. This disobedience made all humankind into sinful "filthy rags" in God's eyes and would require a tremendous human SACRIFICE to appease God's Almighty WRATH against such unbelievable arrogance. (Seriously???)

4. Noah literally took two of every animal on earth into his Ark and lived adrift at sea for almost a year. The entire remainder of life on earth was wiped out by rain and floods due to God's WRATH.(Not really worth a comment)

5. The entire 6 billion+ population of the earth and inumerable animal species today descended from the animals that fit in the Ark and those few people on the Ark. (Anyone run the numbers???)

6. God required that Jesus be TORTURED, SCOURGED VICIOUSLY AND CRUCIFIED TO PAY God for that disobedience thing with the fruit and all subsequent disobedience of humankind. (Because He LOVES us so much!!!)

I'm sorry . . . anyone who buys into these and similar interpretations is a fundamentalist literalist, who has a badly warped conception of God's TRUE NATURE and the SPIRITUAL import of the scriptures, IMO. (grabs hat, coat . . . heads for the door!!)
Ohhhhh Brother........as if we didn't have enough trouble already with the futurists pitted against the preterists and the universal redemptionists at the throats of the eternal damnationists!!!! Add another one: the non-redemptionists against the redemptionists!
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Old 10-25-2009, 01:29 PM
 
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Ohhhhh Brother........as if we didn't have enough trouble already with the futurists pitted against the preterists and the universal redemptionists at the throats of the eternal damnationists!!!! Add another one: the non-redemptionists against the redemptionists!
Get it right, thrillobyte . . . redemption as the fulfillment of a PROMISE (prophesy) . . . NOT payment by punishment! God does NOT punish.
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Old 10-25-2009, 02:30 PM
 
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Contexty is the next truthyness
hahahaha
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Old 10-25-2009, 08:51 PM
 
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Get it right, thrillobyte . . . redemption as the fulfillment of a PROMISE (prophesy) . . . NOT payment by punishment! God does NOT punish.
Well, let's take point # 6:

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Rather than list all the absurdities that this thinking eventually leads to . . . I will just list a few of the major ones that expose the illogical and magical thinking, IMO: 6. God required that Jesus be TORTURED, SCOURGED VICIOUSLY AND CRUCIFIED TO PAY God for that disobedience thing with the fruit and all subsequent disobedience of humankind. (Because He LOVES us so much!!!)
and pit it against Isaiah 53:10

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The Lord (Father) was pleased to bruise him (Jesus);
he (Father) has put him (Jesus) to grief;
when he (Jesus) makes himself (Jesus) an offering for sin,

he shall see his offspring,
he shall prolong his days;
the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
Looks to me like the Father delighted in His Son being put to death.

http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceL...ising_the_Son/

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Old 10-26-2009, 12:14 AM
 
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Looks to me like the Father delighted in His Son being put to death.
And you do not find that sick and twisted at all. That is a God you can love and who you believe loves you (And His tortured Son)???? Forsaking all judgment to literally interpret and believe such misrepresentations about God is not something I am capable of. The Holy Spirit within me is as repulsed by that . . . as by the SUPPOSED description of God's reaction to His Son's torture.
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Old 10-26-2009, 12:26 AM
 
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Sure it is! As in "This book is just WAY to contexty for me".

Next you'll be claiming that there is no such word as "contextish".
LOL I think both can be used.... but i doubt that webster would agree... I use word of my own concoction all the time..
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:09 AM
 
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And you do not find that sick and twisted at all. That is a God you can love and who you believe loves you (And His tortured Son)???? Forsaking all judgment to literally interpret and believe such misrepresentations about God is not something I am capable of. The Holy Spirit within me is as repulsed by that . . . as by the SUPPOSED description of God's reaction to His Son's torture.
No, I don't find it twisted and yes, that is a God I can love, but you're deviating from the point. Isaiah clearly says Jesus was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him, and by His wounds we are healed. Now you don't think that could have happened to God's only begotten Son without our Father's will, do you? So clearly the Father allowed His Son to suffer the cruelest kind of death for our sakes. To deny that is what I find sick and twisted.

Come on people, please help me out here.
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:23 AM
 
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No, I don't find it twisted and yes, that is a God I can love, but you're deviating from the point. Isaiah clearly says Jesus was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him, and by His wounds we are healed. Now you don't think that could have happened to God's only begotten Son without our Father's will, do you? So clearly the Father allowed His Son to suffer the cruelest kind of death for our sakes. To deny that is what I find sick and twisted.
Whoa . . . you just twisted it yet again. I absolutely know God ALLOWED His Son to suffer because of us and our barbarity. He knew it would happen and neither He nor Jesus did anything to stop it. That is NOT THE SAME AS REQUIRING IT OR ENJOYING IT!!!! The BOLD AND CAPS is what is SICK and TWISTED . . . and MY GOD could never embrace such evil!!!
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