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Unread 10-31-2009, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Before being cast into the lake of fire, every unbeliever will be forced to go to their knees and admit that Christ is Lord. They will spend all eternity in the lake of fire knowing that they made the wrong decision.
So God does force people to bow but not to be saved? LOL that is the funniest thing I've heard in a while! Thanks...
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Unread 10-31-2009, 11:04 PM
 
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So God does force people to bow but not to be saved? LOL that is the funniest thing I've heard in a while! Thanks...
If after having rejected the grace opportunity to accept Christ as Savior, while they had the choice and the chance to believe in Him while they were alive on the earth, unbelievers will go to their eternal destination in the lake of fire at the end of the Millennium, after having been forced to acknowledge their mistake.
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Unread 10-31-2009, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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If after having rejected the grace opportunity to accept Christ as Savior, while they had the choice and the chance to believe in Him while they were alive on the earth, unbelievers will go to their eternal destination in the lake of fire at the end of the Millennium, after having been forced to acknowledge their mistake.
So they acknowledge their mistake (repent LOL) yet they are still sent to burn forever?

Why not just forcefully give them salvation? why repent when you will still go to everlasting torture? That sounds like something that Hitler might do.. not Christ? Do you know Christ? or God for that matter?
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Unread 10-31-2009, 11:25 PM
 
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So they acknowledge their mistake (repent LOL) yet they are still sent to burn forever?

Why not just forcefully give them salvation? why repent when you will still go to everlasting torture? That sounds like something that Hitler might do.. not Christ? Do you know Christ? or God for that matter?
Since by your own admission, you don't believe in Heaven, hell, demons, Satan, angels in general as being literal, or that Jesus Christ is God (Thread 'Jesus us God' Post #37) it is not to be expected that you would believe this either.
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Unread 10-31-2009, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Since by your own admission, you don't believe in Heaven, hell, demons, Satan, angels in general as being literal, or that Jesus Christ is God (Thread 'Jesus us God' Post #37) it is not to be expected that you would believe this either.
LOL

I admit that I don't believe in heaven, hell, demons, satan, angels, or that Jesus is God.. and I don't keep it a secret..

But you said that people will be FORCED to their knees to admit the truth then thrown in the lake of fire:

"Before being cast into the lake of fire, every unbeliever will be forced to go to their knees and admit that Christ is Lord. They will spend all eternity in the lake of fire knowing that they made the wrong decision."

and

"If after having rejected the grace opportunity to accept Christ as Savior, while they had the choice and the chance to believe in Him while they were alive on the earth, unbelievers will go to their eternal destination in the lake of fire at the end of the Millennium, after having been forced to acknowledge their mistake."

So it's not about what I believe.. you are saying that after death.. a person will be forced to go to their knees, admit that Christ is Lord, and acknowledge their mistake (repent).. only to be thrown into eternal fiery torture anyway...

Why wouldn't Christ just force them to be saved? Seems alot simpler and would save on the "fire" bill... Don't ya think?

Oh but that is right... I also believe that Jesus died and rose, God is the One and only God, we are saved through grace, and it is the greatest commandment to love God and love our neighbor as ourselves.. so I must be crazy.. right?
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Unread 11-01-2009, 01:06 AM
 
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How can they say that Christ is Lord? If they hate God they wont say it.
They will have denied it all their lives. But now at the Great White Throne judgment, standing before the very same Christ who first came into the world as the Savior, but who is now their judge, it will be different. Every unbeliever will begin his eternal sentence in the lake of fire, knowing exactly Who it is that they had rejected.
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Unread 11-01-2009, 01:10 AM
 
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LOL

I admit that I don't believe in heaven, hell, demons, satan, angels, or that Jesus is God.. and I don't keep it a secret..

But you said that people will be FORCED to their knees to admit the truth then thrown in the lake of fire:

"Before being cast into the lake of fire, every unbeliever will be forced to go to their knees and admit that Christ is Lord. They will spend all eternity in the lake of fire knowing that they made the wrong decision."

and

"If after having rejected the grace opportunity to accept Christ as Savior, while they had the choice and the chance to believe in Him while they were alive on the earth, unbelievers will go to their eternal destination in the lake of fire at the end of the Millennium, after having been forced to acknowledge their mistake."

So it's not about what I believe.. you are saying that after death.. a person will be forced to go to their knees, admit that Christ is Lord, and acknowledge their mistake (repent).. only to be thrown into eternal fiery torture anyway...

Why wouldn't Christ just force them to be saved? Seems alot simpler and would save on the "fire" bill... Don't ya think?

Oh but that is right... I also believe that Jesus died and rose, God is the One and only God, we are saved through grace, and it is the greatest commandment to love God and love our neighbor as ourselves.. so I must be crazy.. right?
You have shown repeatedly that you are incapable of understanding the doctrinal truths of the Bible. It is pointless attempting to explain this to you.
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Unread 11-01-2009, 05:06 AM
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So God does force people to bow but not to be saved? LOL that is the funniest thing I've heard in a while! Thanks...
Yes this sums up the spirit behind the teaching of ET . Quite clearly Fundamentalists believe in free will to an extent whereby God is such a gentlemen He will not force any to be saved , yet He will force them to bow the knee and confess before they are sent to fry.Sounds just like what happened in medieval Europe, actually in in Medieval Europe if you recanted you saved your skin.
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Unread 11-01-2009, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Pike Road, Alabama
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Yes this sums up the spirit behind the teaching of ET . Quite clearly Fundamentalists believe in free will to an extent whereby God is such a gentlemen He will not force any to be saved , yet He will force them to bow the knee and confess before they are sent to fry.Sounds just like what happened in medieval Europe, actually in in Medieval Europe if you recanted you saved your skin.
How ridiculous is that:confu sed:
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Unread 11-01-2009, 08:06 AM
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How ridiculous is that:confu sed:
What do you mean ?
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