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View Poll Results: Once You Are Saved Are You ALWAYS Saved?
Yes, A Man Once Saved Is Forever And Always Saved 23 36.51%
No, If A Man Is Saved But He Sins Again, Salvation Is Lost 9 14.29%
Only Certain "Serious" Sins Such As Killing Will Deny Salvation 2 3.17%
Other 29 46.03%
Voters: 63. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-31-2009, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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I am just curious as to what people think about the doctrine of "eternal security". If a person has professed his belief in the Lord Jesus Christ and publicly acknowledged such through the ritual of baptism is he always and forever assured of salvation or can he lose his salvation? If he can lose his salvation, under what circumstances can he lose it? I have seen arguments on both sides. My Bishop believed in eternal security- he says once the Holy Ghost enters the soul of a man, it will not leave that man but rather will try to guide that man on the path of the righteous.
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Old 10-31-2009, 05:34 PM
 
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I am just curious as to what people think about the doctrine of "eternal security". If a person has professed his belief in the Lord Jesus Christ and publicly acknowledged such through the ritual of baptism is he always and forever assured of salvation or can he lose his salvation? If he can lose his salvation, under what circumstances can he lose it?
Willfully committing a sin. Such a person is a backslider, and will go to hell in that condition. He/She must get right with God again.

BTW, I live in Marietta GA.
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Old 10-31-2009, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Willfully committing a sin. Such a person is a backslider, and will go to hell in that condition. He/She must get right with God again.

BTW, I live in Marietta GA.
...Amen.
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Old 10-31-2009, 06:28 PM
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I have always thought it to be a bit odd that Baptists will teach once saved always saved and then say there is such thing as apostasy.
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Old 10-31-2009, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Pike Road, Alabama
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I am just curious as to what people think about the doctrine of "eternal security". If a person has professed his belief in the Lord Jesus Christ and publicly acknowledged such through the ritual of baptism is he always and forever assured of salvation or can he lose his salvation? If he can lose his salvation, under what circumstances can he lose it? I have seen arguments on both sides. My Bishop believed in eternal security- he says once the Holy Ghost enters the soul of a man, it will not leave that man but rather will try to guide that man on the path of the righteous.
We are called to "work out" our salvation...some days we will fail and some days we won't...but God is loving and merciful and will keep our feet on the right path if we trust Him completely to perfect us.
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Old 10-31-2009, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Nowhere'sville
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Willfully committing a sin. Such a person is a backslider, and will go to hell in that condition. He/She must get right with God again.

BTW, I live in Marietta GA.

I used to struggle with this when I was actually in church....so you mean to say that one can be saved today, not tomorrow, saved the next day, not the next....so on and so forth?
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Old 10-31-2009, 08:41 PM
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Willfully committing a sin. Such a person is a backslider, and will go to hell in that condition. He/She must get right with God again.

BTW, I live in Marietta GA.
So if someone is RIGHT with God do they have salvation? If they do and they are Once Saved Always Saved then how can they get RIGHT again?
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Old 10-31-2009, 09:23 PM
 
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"other"?

some people actually took the time to vote for "other"?
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Old 10-31-2009, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Hot-Houston Texas
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I used to struggle with this when I was actually in church....so you mean to say that one can be saved today, not tomorrow, saved the next day, not the next....so on and so forth?
Not according to the Bible, when a person is saved, it's forever.
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Old 10-31-2009, 10:58 PM
 
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I used to struggle with this when I was actually in church....so you mean to say that one can be saved today, not tomorrow, saved the next day, not the next....so on and so forth?
Actually,
The Bible has warnings about falling away
Matthew 13:21 also in Mark 4:17 also in Luke 8:13
Galatians 5:4
Hebrews 5:11
2 Peter 3:17
2 John 1:8

However,
Jesus teaches that we, the elect, none will be lost
John 6:39

And that nothing will be able to seperate us from the love of God
Romans 8:39

2 Peter 3:17 our secure position
(I'm sure there is other verses with the same thought)

Being that all of scripture is the truth, how does the two seemingly opposite thoughts complement each other?

Answer: Comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.....and knowing who needs to hear what.
The reason Peter began to sink when he was walking on the water wasn't because of lack of power of Jesus' word, but rather Peter trusted in Peter's ownself. It is no wonder that of all the disciples, it is Peter who warns about falling from the secure position. He almost did, unlike Judas and others.

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