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11-05-2009, 10:25 AM
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America The PAGAN HARLOT ???
Although the common meaning of Paganism seems to imply atheism, a Pagan can worship any other god not common to the god of the Torah, the Bible or the Koran. This also includes those who worshiped gods before the advent of the Judeo-Christian religions.
As Mortimer Adler put it:
" Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle, Marcus Aurelius, Epictetus, and Cicero were Western pagans. The Western peoples of pre-Christian antiquity were all pagans in the sense defined. Many remained pagans during the early centuries of the Christian era; and from the 16th century on, the number of pagans living in communities that were predominantly Christian or Muslim has steadily increased. "
So if we wish to find the origins of a government based on Paganism, we must establish two things:
1. The lawful documents, symbols and mottoes of the founding government do not contain any mention of Christian, Moslem, or Jewish religions.
2. The documents, symbols and mottoes of the founding government describe Pagan deities and concepts.
Since the government in question involves the founding documents and symbols of the United States of America, we must satisfy the above two criteria with evidence for Paganism and a lack of evidence for Christianity, Judaism, or Islam.
So could America be the HO of babylon mentioned in Revelation ??
I believe these pages below are strong evidence pointing in that direction you decide for yourself........
http://www.nobeliefs.com/pagan.htm
http://community-2.webtv.net/westernmind/WASHINGTONDC/
And why this monstosity for the memorial of our countrys founder....an Egyptian obelisk ????

Last edited by caucazhin; 11-05-2009 at 10:38 AM..
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11-05-2009, 10:29 AM
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Oh NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Hide the children....LOL
Being married to someone who's family observes the celebrations and traditions of Paganism, I find this just fascination.
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11-05-2009, 10:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by caucazhin
Although the common meaning of Paganism seems to imply atheism, a Pagan can worship any other god not common to the god of the Torah, the Bible or the Koran. This also includes those who worshiped gods before the advent of the Judeo-Christian religions.
As Mortimer Adler put it:
" Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle, Marcus Aurelius, Epictetus, and Cicero were Western pagans. The Western peoples of pre-Christian antiquity were all pagans in the sense defined. Many remained pagans during the early centuries of the Christian era; and from the 16th century on, the number of pagans living in communities that were predominantly Christian or Muslim has steadily increased. "
So if we wish to find the origins of a government based on Paganism, we must establish two things:
1. The lawful documents, symbols and mottoes of the founding government do not contain any mention of Christian, Moslem, or Jewish religions.
2. The documents, symbols and mottoes of the founding government describe Pagan deities and concepts.
Since the government in question involves the founding documents and symbols of the United States of America, we must satisfy the above two criteria with evidence for Paganism and a lack of evidence for Christianity, Judaism, or Islam.
So could America be the HO of babylon mentioned in Revelation ??
I believe these pages below are strong evidence pointing in that direction you decide for yourself........
http://www.nobeliefs.com/pagan.htm
http://community-2.webtv.net/westernmind/WASHINGTONDC/
And why this monstosity for the memorial of our countrys founder....an Egyptian obelisk ????
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Nice pic! 
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11-05-2009, 10:41 AM
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making mountains out of molehills
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You're either are a disciple are not, it's not a gray area.
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01-08-2010, 11:53 AM
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01-08-2010, 01:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by caucazhin
Although the common meaning of Paganism seems to imply atheism, a Pagan can worship any other god not common to the god of the Torah, the Bible or the Koran. This also includes those who worshiped gods before the advent of the Judeo-Christian religions.
As Mortimer Adler put it:
" Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle, Marcus Aurelius, Epictetus, and Cicero were Western pagans. The Western peoples of pre-Christian antiquity were all pagans in the sense defined. Many remained pagans during the early centuries of the Christian era; and from the 16th century on, the number of pagans living in communities that were predominantly Christian or Muslim has steadily increased. "
So if we wish to find the origins of a government based on Paganism, we must establish two things:
1. The lawful documents, symbols and mottoes of the founding government do not contain any mention of Christian, Moslem, or Jewish religions.
2. The documents, symbols and mottoes of the founding government describe Pagan deities and concepts.
Since the government in question involves the founding documents and symbols of the United States of America, we must satisfy the above two criteria with evidence for Paganism and a lack of evidence for Christianity, Judaism, or Islam.
So could America be the HO of babylon mentioned in Revelation ??
I believe these pages below are strong evidence pointing in that direction you decide for yourself........
http://www.nobeliefs.com/pagan.htm
http://community-2.webtv.net/westernmind/WASHINGTONDC/
And why this monstosity for the memorial of our countrys founder....an Egyptian obelisk ????
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I don't know why we have that large phallus/obelisk as a memorial for our country it does seem a bit odd.
Obelisk are often found on worship facilities also but the call them steeples and put a star on top. What's up with that?
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01-08-2010, 01:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by caucazhin
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So could America be the HO of babylon mentioned in Revelation ??.........
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No
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01-09-2010, 06:55 AM
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Pagan were polytheists believing in many Gods, Bible calls them lower gods or darkness spirit higher than the cattle The Lord God curses them in early book of Genesis ......... King Solomom built the first temple for The Lord which repesents the shadow of Jesus temple of Holy Spirit...... That temple had two obelisk. In 1 Kings 7;21-22 One right obelisk he called Jachin and the other obelisk hae called Boaz...... these obelisk represent the deliverance of the children of God ... eg. the pillar of fire that protected Moses from the Egyptians at the Red Sea crossing..... Some obelisk are not pagan , For if you have ever been delivered from a demon the spirit of the blood bind up the demon with two pillars one on the demons right side arms and legs and one pillar one the other side and carry the demons off to a place the Lord has. Go behind the veil with the eyes of the Lord God and see for you self.
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