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Old 12-01-2009, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Florida
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abortion is murder, no matter what you call it, it's still a human baby with every right to live.
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Old 12-01-2009, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Utah
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abortion is murder, no matter what you call it, it's still a human baby with every right to live.
"Murder" of course is a legal term and it's up to courts and juries to decide if it was commited or not.

But, abortion is always KILLING!

And, as you put it, human babies have every right to live.
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Old 12-01-2009, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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I accept you apology and I apologive for reacting so harshly. You have some good point but abortion is not a remedy to the problem. I am not perfect but I do what I can, and I personally do not beleave what I do is enough. With that said I still do not see abortion as an option.
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Old 12-01-2009, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Abortion is not an appropriate answer to promiscuity.

I can see it for a lady who presents a high-risk pregnancy.

I know one lady to gets pregnant nearly everytime that she and her DH do 'it'. Her one attempt to go through a pregnancy ended in a high-risk c-section and the fetus was still-born. Doctors refuse to allow 'the pill' due to her other health issues, and until they can afford a hysterectomy it presents a problem. [btw they are celibate now]

I have seen young girls who have gotten pregnant. They need guidance, not a baby.

God defines life, and God says that a fetus does not have a soul; so I can see abortions so long as they are not done to promote evil in society.
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Old 12-01-2009, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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If you're anti abortion, you should all go and adopt all the unwanted children already here in foster care. Then again of course nobody will, because they are all talk. Funny many of the same "pro lifers" are for the death penalty. Hypocrites.
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Old 12-01-2009, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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If you're anti abortion, you should all go and adopt all the unwanted children already here in foster care. Then again of course nobody will, because they are all talk. Funny many of the same "pro lifers" are for the death penalty. Hypocrites.
Yeah and they are more likely to join the army to go to Iraq and kill.
Double standards?
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:07 PM
 
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This is always a good topic for discussion among Christians. I think the answer is simple and it gets very complicated. God is the God of life... HE is the Creator, HE gives life and before there was sin there was only life... Now I how can it ever be right to take life no matter what the complications are? It cannot, however I recognize God is both Pro- life and pro-choice. If a person is a sold out, born-again, faith practicing Christian the answer to the OP's question is simple, and if not right and wrong are relative....
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Tulsa
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Abortion is not an appropriate answer to promiscuity.

I can see it for a lady who presents a high-risk pregnancy.

I know one lady to gets pregnant nearly everytime that she and her DH do 'it'. Her one attempt to go through a pregnancy ended in a high-risk c-section and the fetus was still-born. Doctors refuse to allow 'the pill' due to her other health issues, and until they can afford a hysterectomy it presents a problem. [btw they are celibate now]

I have seen young girls who have gotten pregnant. They need guidance, not a baby.

God defines life, and God says that a fetus does not have a soul; so I can see abortions so long as they are not done to promote evil in society.
You already know I disagree with you on this issue. But just wanted to say, I got pregnant at 15. If I had guidance (abortion) and not a baby, my beautiful (inside and out) almost 23 year old daughter would not be here today. She is my best friend and I don't know how I would live without her.

PS...I think there are times when it must be done, like you mentioned, if a mother will die otherwise.

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If you're anti abortion, you should all go and adopt all the unwanted children already here in foster care. Then again of course nobody will, because they are all talk. Funny many of the same "pro lifers" are for the death penalty. Hypocrites.
I love how someone lumps a whole group of people together as hypocrites. How do you know some of us haven't done just that? It's absurd to say we should adopt them "all" but you don't know that we haven't done our part.

PS... I wouldn't consider myself "pro-life", rather, against killing the innocent.
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Utah
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God defines life, and God says that a fetus does not have a soul; so I can see abortions so long as they are not done to promote evil in society.
That must have been quite a revelation when God told you that a fetus does not have a soul. Would you like to share details of that experience with us?
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:15 PM
 
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You got the wrong idea...a child has a right to live..it's not the baby's fault
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