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I have heard several people on this forum refer to being filled with Christ...
What is that? Are some people confused or what?
Seems like they are saying that the Spirit filled Christ and Christ fills people with himself... that isn't how it went in the bible..
Anyone know what this means and how it is found in scripture?
Well I must admit that you have said "that isn't how it went in the bible"
sounds like you already have your answer .
In other words it doesn't sound like you can find scripture to support this
I may add that I often refer to being filled with the Holy Spirit, which is whom Christ promised to send as a Comforter, Advocate and many other things
in His absence while He is absent from us.
This is my belief....
God Bless You
Well I must admit that you have said "that isn't how it went in the bible"
sounds like you already have your answer .
In other words it doesn't sound like you can find scripture to support this
I may add that I often refer to being filled with the Holy Spirit, which is whom Christ promised to send as a Comforter, Advocate and many other things
in His absence while He is absent from us.
This is my belief....
God Bless You
I should have clarified that, I suppose, by saying that I hadn't found it in the bible... or to my knowledge.. or even added can you show me how that can be...
Either way seems weird.. filled with Christ..
filled with the Holy Spirit makes sense according to scripture.. to me...
We are born of flesh, and that flesh must die in order for the new Man (Christ) to take full residence within us (I Cor 15:36). This process is not immediate, as Jesus commanded us to take up our cross and Paul further expounded on the struggle as the flesh is put down.
We can easily see that - no matter your terminology - it's His nature that is to take over where our carnal nature once thrived. The goal is to be whole, pure, perfect (Mat 5:48), meaning without mixture.
We are born of flesh, and that flesh must die in order for the new Man (Christ) to take full residence within us (I Cor 15:36). This process is not immediate, as Jesus commanded us to take up our cross and Paul further expounded on the struggle as the flesh is put down.
We can easily see that - no matter your terminology - it's His nature that is to take over where our carnal nature once thrived. The goal is to be whole, pure, perfect (Mat 5:48), meaning without mixture.
My understanding is that there is no perfection... without the Holy Spirit.. so aren't we filled with the Holy Spirit not Christ?
It seems to me that the roles of Christ compared to God are well defined but when it comes to the Holy Spirit compared to Christ their roles get all mixed up.
Can any trinitarians give me what the Holy Spirit does versus Christ?
My understanding is that there is no perfection... without the Holy Spirit.. so aren't we filled with the Holy Spirit not Christ?
It seems to me that the roles of Christ compared to God are well defined but when it comes to the Holy Spirit compared to Christ their roles get all mixed up.
Can any trinitarians give me what the Holy Spirit does versus Christ?
The Holy Spirit is the power behind the Word of God. God creates by a thought...speaks it through His Word, Jesus, Who is God's Word manifested in the flesh, and given power by the Holy Spirit. Without the Holy Spirit...there is no power to God's Word. This power is what enables the sinner to overcome sin in their lives...without it, there is no hope of overcoming sin in one's life.
I should have clarified that, I suppose, by saying that I hadn't found it in the bible... or to my knowledge.. or even added can you show me how that can be...
Either way seems weird.. filled with Christ..
filled with the Holy Spirit makes sense according to scripture.. to me...
Quote:
Rev 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Rom 8:9
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Phl 1:19-20
For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ, According to my earnest expectation and my hope, that in nothing I shall be ashamed, but that with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether it be by life, or by death.
1Pe 1:11
Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
The spirit of God and the spirit of Christ are one and the same. So does the spirit of Christ enter into us and make us one with God, that God might be all in all in the fullness of times.
Last edited by Ironmaw1776; 11-03-2009 at 09:30 PM..
What does it means to be filled with Christ?
Thats an easy question to answer.
Think of yourself and your life as being a box.
The box is 'filled" to the top with Christ.
In other words, Christ lives in your life.
Your life is completely filled with Christ-like concerns.
all that do do, all that you think about, every step you take, every thought you have, is due to being filled with Christ.
Didn't you just replace Christ with the holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit with Christ.. take this excerpt from the website you posted for example:
"To be filled with the Holy Spirit is to be filled with Christ. The Holy Spirit came to glorify Christ. Therefore, if I am filled with the Spirit, I am abiding in Christ."
On one hand he says "filled with Christ" then says "abiding in Christ" which is it?
The box is filled up with Christ or the box is in Christ...
See where trinitarians don't have a set role for the Holy Spirit compared to the role of Christ.. it's like they read Christ and think Holy Spirit.. aren't they supposed to be two separate personalities with two different roles?
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