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11-29-2009, 12:43 PM
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The blood of Jesus forgives and cleanses sin
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Originally Posted by katjonjj
Are you saying that the blood of christ only works to cleanse sinners when the sinners have faith? Like in chemistry when you have to have two components to get another more useful chemical? Why isn't the blood of christ (in your mind) sufficient to wipe away all sin?
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Yes, you must have God-given faith to even accept Calvary. Also, there's a difference between the blood of Jesus wiping out all your past sins and the blood of Jesus cleansing you of all sin; the second part is a purging process.
1 John 1
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
As you walk in the Light, the Holy Spirit will expose your wrongdoing, which you were ignorant of, so that it can be washed out of your life. If you knowingly reject what has been revealed, then you become a willful sinner again.
1 John 1
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
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11-29-2009, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by scgraham
Yes, you must have God-given faith to even accept Calvary. Also, there's a difference between the blood of Jesus wiping out all your past sins and the blood of Jesus cleansing you of all sin; the second part is a purging process.
1 John 1
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
As you walk in the Light, the Holy Spirit will expose your wrongdoing, which you were ignorant of, so that it can be washed out of your life. If you knowingly reject what has been revealed, then you become a willful sinner again.
1 John 1
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
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Amen.....scgraham!
Blessings.... 
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11-29-2009, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by scgraham
Yes, you must have God-given faith to even accept Calvary. Also, there's a difference between the blood of Jesus wiping out all your past sins and the blood of Jesus cleansing you of all sin; the second part is a purging process.
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My question then is: Where does faith in God come from?
Romans 3:22-23 This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
So aren't all sinners given grace? but living righteously is from God through faith?
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1 John 1
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness,
As you walk in the Light, the Holy Spirit will expose your wrongdoing, which you were ignorant of, so that it can be washed out of your life. If you knowingly reject what has been revealed, then you become a willful sinner again.
1 John 1
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
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Although these verses don't say what will happen if you don't confess your sins, you aren't saved from sin... it just states that to live like you are saved from sin you must confess your sins and get rid of them..
So do you believe that only a certain few people are chosen and saved or is the call of salvation to all men?
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11-29-2009, 04:38 PM
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Salvation is available to all.
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. - Revelation 22:17
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11-29-2009, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by scgraham
Salvation is available to all.
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. - Revelation 22:17
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Yes.. so then why doesn't it say .. and whosoever has enough faith.. let him take the water of life freely...?
It just says take the water.. and this is after all is said and done.. new heavens, new earth... the kingdom is open to all.. is it not?
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11-29-2009, 04:49 PM
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But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. - Hebrews 11:6
Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. - Hebrews 10:38
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11-29-2009, 04:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scgraham
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. - Hebrews 11:6
Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. - Hebrews 10:38
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Hebrews 12 verse 6
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Sounds to me that God as our Father will conform us to His image
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11-30-2009, 07:05 AM
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Amen.
Praise be to God who has made this available to us.

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11-30-2009, 09:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scgraham
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. - Hebrews 11:6
Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. - Hebrews 10:38
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Amen....
2Cor.5:7
For we walk by faith, not by sight.
John 20:29
Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
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11-30-2009, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by katjonjj
Yes.. so then why doesn't it say .. and whosoever has enough faith.. let him take the water of life freely...?
It just says take the water.. and this is after all is said and done.. new heavens, new earth... the kingdom is open to all.. is it not?
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Context - Hades and death have already been thrown into the fire. Those in Christ only remain for this offer in Rev. 22.
Rev. 20:13-15 - And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
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