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Old 12-05-2009, 10:32 AM
 
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The last one went pretty well, but every foundation needs to be tested, right?

I feel the biggest cause for disagreement among believers is a lack of communication/understanding, but beyond that:

1. Believers can be on the same path, but at different stages of growth.

2. As a believer grows in the Lord, his/her understanding of the Lord's ways will increase.

3. More grace is given to some, than others.

4. The walk the Lord has chosen for some may differ from that of others. One group may experience Him in a way that the other group has not.

5. Those who have received more/less grace may disagree on points with others who have/have not received the same grace.

This set isn't as important as the first set, but the world's getting a mixed message because of Agree/Disagree II.

What think thee?
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Comunistafornia, and working to get out ASAP!
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1. Believers can be on the same path, but at different stages of growth.

2. As a believer grows in the Lord, his/her understanding of the Lord's ways will increase.

3. More grace is given to some, than others.

4. The walk the Lord has chosen for some may differ from that of others. One group may experience Him in a way that the other group has not.

5. Those who have received more/less grace may disagree on points with others who have/have not received the same grace.

What think thee?
1. As long as that path is Jesus Christ of the Bible.

2.

3. Hum? "more grace"? You might want to explain this one. The grace of salvation is the same for all those called to Christ.

4.

5. Hum? We are not supposed to. (Romans 12:16; 1 Corinthians 1:10; Philippians 2:2; 3:16; 4:2; 1 Peter 4:1)
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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The last one went pretty well, but every foundation needs to be tested, right?

I feel the biggest cause for disagreement among believers is a lack of communication/understanding, but beyond that:

1. Believers can be on the same path, but at different stages of growth.

2. As a believer grows in the Lord, his/her understanding of the Lord's ways will increase.

3. More grace is given to some, than others.

4. The walk the Lord has chosen for some may differ from that of others. One group may experience Him in a way that the other group has not.

5. Those who have received more/less grace may disagree on points with others who have/have not received the same grace.

This set isn't as important as the first set, but the world's getting a mixed message because of Agree/Disagree II.

What think thee?
I agree with them all. It's the soul condition that portrays the real person. When we can't let people walk their own path, we are not living in the light of God. Being Love to each other is the most enlightened way to be in the world without being of it. When we judge others, we are only judging ourselves and leaves no room for love to enter our souls.

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Old 12-05-2009, 11:39 AM
 
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3. Hum? "more grace"? You might want to explain this one. The grace of salvation is the same for all those called to Christ.
There is a manifold grace given to all (Titus 2:11), but to say that all believers have received the same is contradicted by scripture: He giveth more grace (James 4:6) to those in temptation, grace for ministry (Eph 3:7), and to the level in which it is needed, sufficient grace (2 Cor 12:9).

All this is taken literally from scripture, but I believe that the most basic definition of grace is the presence of God in time of need, at the point we need it. Because we grow in grace and the knowledge of Him (2 Peter 3:18), it's evident that one may be further along than the next, without blame - a second grader is not at fault if he/she is not as far along in knowledge as a teenager, for instance - but each is expected to continue on from their place.
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Old 12-05-2009, 01:25 PM
 
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There is a manifold grace given to all (Titus 2:11), but to say that all believers have received the same is contradicted by scripture: He giveth more grace (James 4:6) to those in temptation, grace for ministry (Eph 3:7), and to the level in which it is needed, sufficient grace (2 Cor 12:9).

All this is taken literally from scripture, but I believe that the most basic definition of grace is the presence of God in time of need, at the point we need it. Because we grow in grace and the knowledge of Him (2 Peter 3:18), it's evident that one may be further along than the next, without blame - a second grader is not at fault if he/she is not as far along in knowledge as a teenager, for instance - but each is expected to continue on from their place.
Ok, I would agree with that.
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Old 12-05-2009, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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The last one went pretty well, but every foundation needs to be tested, right?

I feel the biggest cause for disagreement among believers is a lack of communication/understanding, but beyond that:

1. Believers can be on the same path, but at different stages of growth.

2. As a believer grows in the Lord, his/her understanding of the Lord's ways will increase.

3. More grace is given to some, than others.

4. The walk the Lord has chosen for some may differ from that of others. One group may experience Him in a way that the other group has not.

5. Those who have received more/less grace may disagree on points with others who have/have not received the same grace.

This set isn't as important as the first set, but the world's getting a mixed message because of Agree/Disagree II.

What think thee?
I disagreed on the first one (Agree/Disagree I) and agree with these five...

Interesting isn't it?

I find no fault with any of those five things.
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Old 12-05-2009, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I think you could add a rule I have held for many years described in the autobiography of Charles Finney:

CONFORM TO INCREASING LIGHT AS RAPIDLY AS POSSIBLE.

Many have long ago buried their choice to be accepted by the religious people around them rather than take up their cross to follow Jesus the Light of the world. (Yes, it costs everything.)
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Old 12-06-2009, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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If Christ is truely a "lamp unto our feet", then I believe we Christians who are stumbling in the dark, need only to concern ourselves with the next step.

Appears to me, most dissension on this forum, and among Christians in general, is when we take our eye off Christ, stumble, and loose our way.
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Old 12-06-2009, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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The last one went pretty well, but every foundation needs to be tested, right?

I feel the biggest cause for disagreement among believers is a lack of communication/understanding, but beyond that:

1. Believers can be on the same path, but at different stages of growth.

2. As a believer grows in the Lord, his/her understanding of the Lord's ways will increase.

3. More grace is given to some, than others.

4. The walk the Lord has chosen for some may differ from that of others. One group may experience Him in a way that the other group has not.

5. Those who have received more/less grace may disagree on points with others who have/have not received the same grace.

This set isn't as important as the first set, but the world's getting a mixed message because of Agree/Disagree II.

What think thee?
That's the way God handles his business with men and I'm quite sure He has a good reason and purpose for doing it....AMEN!!!
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Old 12-06-2009, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville,Florida
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1. As long as that path is Jesus Christ of the Bible.

2.

3. Hum? "more grace"? You might want to explain this one. The grace of salvation is the same for all those called to Christ.

4.

5. Hum? We are not supposed to. (Romans 12:16; 1 Corinthians 1:10; Philippians 2:2; 3:16; 4:2; 1 Peter 4:1)
I have to agree with Marks about #3 & #5 as I agree with you and Marks on the rest.
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