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Old 12-16-2009, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Germany
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when I still was undecided whether the bible teaches annihilation as Jehova witnesses claim or everlasting torment as Catholicism claims, I came across this page, I haven't heard of universalism until then but was convinced of its truth at the very first moment when I saw that chart, I translated it into English, you'll find it in the attachment.

This is the German original:

Was ist Neuer Himmel und Neue Erde?

maybe it helps anybody
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Old 12-16-2009, 11:57 AM
 
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Seriously. Do we need another universalism thread? How about the gospel? Go to the atheists and spread the gospel. How about the streets? Germany is one of many in Europe that needs the gospel.
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:01 PM
 
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Seriously. Do we need another universalism thread? How about gospel. Go to the atheist and spread the gospel.
many atheists might read here, gospel means good news, don't I spread good news? - Paul commands us to teach that God is the savior of all men (1 Timothy 1:10)

I agree that there have been to much threads on universalism, of which some have been written in a kind of bitter spirit and were rather contraproductive, but this chart said more than many words to me and I thought it worth to share.
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:09 PM
 
Location: RV Park
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Study to show yourself approved - 2 Tim 2:15. Nothing wrong with knowing why you believe what you believe. It's either that, or get your lunch shoveled to you.
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:12 PM
 
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I agree that there have been to much threads on universalism, of which some have been written in a kind of bitter spirit and were rather contraproductive, but this chart said more than many words to me and I thought it worth to share.
No argument with that
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:23 PM
 
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Seriously.
Do we need another universalism thread?

How about the gospel?
Why are you repeating yourself?

Jesus Christ is the saviour of ALL mankind.. IS the good news.


peace...
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Wa
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Why are you repeating yourself?

Jesus Christ is the saviour of ALL mankind.. IS the good news.


peace...
That is true...He did, but not all will accept that will they now?
That isn't so good news But then again, Christ said many wouldn't.

Last edited by sciotamicks; 12-16-2009 at 12:27 PM.. Reason: I am a great speller, but terrible typer
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:49 PM
 
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That is true...He did, but not all will accept that will they now?
That isn't so good news But then again, Christ said many wouldn't.
LOL GREAT NEWS! Many of you will perish or be eternally tormented because you refuse to believe this is GREAT NEWS!

By your own admission you don't preach good news. Think about it.
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Old 12-16-2009, 01:23 PM
 
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Christ said many wouldn't.
And I personally see that as the separation of the soul (carnal life) from the spirit. He's saying most of me won't, imo.
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Old 12-16-2009, 05:34 PM
 
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These scripture that are suppose to correct one another do not even relate to each other and quite deceptive You should get born again and ask Holy Spirit for proper interpretation of Heaven than that of a logical ideas Jesus rejects rationalism interpretations, and demands faith . Most of these scripture are taken out of context and not relating? Deception is a dead end. Try Holy spirit.
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