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Old 11-11-2010, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Well that was just stupid, since it was not a mark on the forehead or on the hand. Maybe the "chip" is not the mark, maybe it is but I would beware when they start demanding that everyone get it.
Well, how far will you go in resisting to take it if you think it only MIGHT BE the mark?
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:01 AM
 
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Well that was just stupid, since it was not a mark on the forehead or on the hand. Maybe the "chip" is not the mark, maybe it is but I would beware when they start demanding that everyone get it.

No offense, but most people who believe this stuff are listening to other people talk about it, you do realize that the biblical issue with the mark of the beast has to do with two things that are NOT mutually exclusive.

One will be the mark, whatever that may be, the other is renouncing your faith in Christ and pronouncing your allegiance to something else, whatever that may be. Explain how any modern day talk about the mark shows how people will be forced to renounce their faith.

You will not find any of it even worth considering once you realize it in that light.
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:46 AM
 
Location: SC Foothills
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Well, how far will you go in resisting to take it if you think it only MIGHT BE the mark?
Well what do you think it is Finn? Are you going to allow yourself to be chipped because it may or may not be the mark?
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:53 AM
 
Location: SC Foothills
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No offense, but most people who believe this stuff are listening to other people talk about it, you do realize that the biblical issue with the mark of the beast has to do with two things that are NOT mutually exclusive.

One will be the mark, whatever that may be, the other is renouncing your faith in Christ and pronouncing your allegiance to something else, whatever that may be. Explain how any modern day talk about the mark shows how people will be forced to renounce their faith.

You will not find any of it even worth considering once you realize it in that light.
No offense to you either but it's what the Bible says. Most people who believe it just happen to believe that a literal interpretation is the only way to view it. Make no mistake, there will be a forced mark and there will be forced renouncing of faith as well. Just because you have a different take on things does not mean that millions of people are wrong.
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Well what do you think it is Finn? Are you going to allow yourself to be chipped because it may or may not be the mark?
The mark could be the chip. I am not trying to say it is not. I have thought about it myself, but then I begun to wonder what I should do if they indeed ask everyone to take it, and I wasn't sure if it was the mark or not. I think believers will know for sure what the mark is, when it is introduced. In the other hand it won't matter if we get raptured before it playes out.
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:19 AM
 
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No offense to you either but it's what the Bible says. Most people who believe it just happen to believe that a literal interpretation is the only way to view it. Make no mistake, there will be a forced mark and there will be forced renouncing of faith as well. Just because you have a different take on things does not mean that millions of people are wrong.

The bible says nothing of an RFID chip, and there is nothing surrounding the RFID chip that indicates anything of renouncing ones faith.

In fact there has been nothing surround any end time theology that canb produce one ounce of evidence that sets the stage for anyone renouncing their faith.

I take no offense to what you think, but it is not from scripture that you think it or you wouldn't bat an eye at anything being said about it to date.

We are all antiChrists at some point, the mark will be a spiritual mark brought forth by people having to make a choice to be evil to survive or faithful to God to survive. It is all individual, being ready has nothing to with a coming physical beast, having to wonder if it is the president or some deception of global scale with countries and leaders and laws. It is each of us who will decide to be a beast or not.

This is not something that may come in the year 2000 (LOL) 2012, 2015, ect, it might be you having to make that choice in the next 5 minutes.

Whether to stop and help someone stranded or go about your business, we have to face it EVERY DAY.

Pick up our cross daily.
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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The bible says nothing of an RFID chip, and there is nothing surrounding the RFID chip that indicates anything of renouncing ones faith.

In fact there has been nothing surround any end time theology that canb produce one ounce of evidence that sets the stage for anyone renouncing their faith.

I take no offense to what you think, but it is not from scripture that you think it or you wouldn't bat an eye at anything being said about it to date.

We are all antiChrists at some point, the mark will be a spiritual mark brought forth by people having to make a choice to be evil to survive or faithful to God to survive. It is all individual, being ready has nothing to with a coming physical beast, having to wonder if it is the president or some deception of global scale with countries and leaders and laws. It is each of us who will decide to be a beast or not.

This is not something that may come in the year 2000 (LOL) 2012, 2015, ect, it might be you having to make that choice in the next 5 minutes.

Whether to stop and help someone stranded or go about your business, we have to face it EVERY DAY.

Pick up our cross daily.
There is nothing wrong in keeping your eyes open. Jesus told us that there will be signs. A tree will get buds in spring and it is a sign that the summer is coming, and there will be signs about the end times too.
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:52 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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That's right, laugh it up....."chips" and salsa for everyone.

But whatcha gonna do when it becomes a "requirement" to be chipped?
If someone forced me I guess I'd go home, get a razor blade, cut it out, bandage myself up, then toss it somewhere.
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:57 AM
 
Location: RI
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If someone forced me I guess I'd go home, get a razor blade, cut it out, bandage myself up, then toss it somewhere.
How will you pay for your groceries at Stop and Shop if you go and do that ?
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:59 AM
 
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There is nothing wrong in keeping your eyes open. Jesus told us that there will be signs. A tree will get buds in spring and it is a sign that the summer is coming, and there will be signs about the end times too.

Sure, but if your not looking within yourself, you'll miss it.
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