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Old 12-23-2009, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Bingo, we have a winner. If we have the holy spirit or the spirit of God living within us does that make us God? Jesus walked on the earth as a man but he was filled with the fullness of God`s spirit. He came forth FROM GOD. He had the divine living within his body just like we all do. But he realized who he was. He realized that he was a part of God.
We are all sons or daughters of God. When we pray,we pray OUR FATHER who art in heaven. We were made in the image of God. We have the image of the divine ALMIGHTY within us. That is what makes man different.
God created the human race as sons and daughters, a part of himself. If you have the spirit of God within you and if you are made in the image of God,then what does that make you? If your Father is royality or your Father is divine,what does that make you? Most people do not realize who they are in Christ. They do not understand why they were created. We shall one day be one with the creator. Just like Jesus and the Father are one. We will be of one spirit,one mind,one essence.
When we see him,we will be like him. For we shall see him as he is.God will be all in all.
Full Card Bingo !!!! this was already discussed at great length in another post and we all provided tons of scripture to back us up....so I will not go there again.

Keep seeking God's Divine Love....you can never receive enough ! God Bless! Thanks be to Jesus
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Old 12-23-2009, 10:25 PM
 
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And the point is....?
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Old 12-23-2009, 10:25 PM
 
Location: UPSTATE SC
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No one is proclaiming that Jesus is God the Father, we are proclaiming that Jesus is God the Son.

It has already been proven that Jesus is deity, God the Son, and it is up to Christians that don't believe that, whether He should be worshipped or not.

Merry Christmas everyone, and worship Christ!


Amen . . . I second that . . . . Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Old 12-23-2009, 10:59 PM
 
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TWO JEHOVAH'S IN ONE VERSE
"Thus says (first) JEHOVAH, the King of Israel, and his Redeemer, (second) JEHOVAH of Hosts; I am the first, and the last; AND BESIDES ME THERE IS NO GOD (first and second Jehovah together)" [Isaiah 44:6]. "And besides me there is no God" is applied to both Jehovah's.
First Jehovah: "Thus says JEHOVAH, the King of Israel"
Second Jehovah: "And his Redeemer, JEHOVAH of Hosts"
I thought it was saying Jehovah, The King of Israel and redeemer (of Israel), the Jehovah of hosts. Not 2 Jehovahs.

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Old 12-23-2009, 11:03 PM
 
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Jesus never called himself God (the Son) - he called himself (the Son) of God, and after all of the debate that is what I will stick with.

All kinds of doctrines and interpretations have come into being by combining passages from all over scripture
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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No one is proclaiming that Jesus is God the Father, we are proclaiming that Jesus is God the Son.
yes, people are proclaiming just that.

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It has already been proven that Jesus is deity, God the Son, and it is up to Christians that don't believe that, whether He should be worshipped or not.

Merry Christmas everyone, and worship Christ!
No one is questioning whether Jesus is a God, He said, that we are even gods.

God the Father said that "Ye are Gods" to whom the word of God comes, and Jesus the Son said so as well.

Again, if we are to be ONE with God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit as the scriptures say, then how could we be not counted as in the congregation of Gods.

God standeth in the congregation of the mighty, He judgeth among the Gods.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 12-24-2009, 02:08 AM
 
Location: Seattle, Wa
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Jesus never called himself God (the Son) - he called himself (the Son) of God, and after all of the debate that is what I will stick with.

All kinds of doctrines and interpretations have come into being by combining passages from all over scripture

So you deny the premise of John 1?
And...doesn't a son have the genetics of his father?

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Old 12-24-2009, 02:10 AM
 
Location: Seattle, Wa
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yes, people are proclaiming just that.



No one is questioning whether Jesus is a God, He said, that we are even gods.

God the Father said that "Ye are Gods" to whom the word of God comes, and Jesus the Son said so as well.

Again, if we are to be ONE with God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit as the scriptures say, then how could we be not counted as in the congregation of Gods.
Your interpretation of that particular scripture is faulty and eisegesis and has nothing to do with you or myself.
And plus, we are not gods or Gods, but only priests and kings...I will stick with that.

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Old 12-24-2009, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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Bingo, we have a winner. If we have the holy spirit or the spirit of God living within us does that make us God? Jesus walked on the earth as a man but he was filled with the fullness of God`s spirit. He came forth FROM GOD. He had the divine living within his body just like we all do. But he realized who he was. He realized that he was a part of God.
We are all sons or daughters of God. When we pray,we pray OUR FATHER who art in heaven. We were made in the image of God. We have the image of the divine ALMIGHTY within us. That is what makes man different.
God created the human race as sons and daughters, a part of himself. If you have the spirit of God within you and if you are made in the image of God,then what does that make you? If your Father is royality or your Father is divine,what does that make you? Most people do not realize who they are in Christ. They do not understand why they were created. We shall one day be one with the creator. Just like Jesus and the Father are one. We will be of one spirit,one mind,one essence.
When we see him,we will be like him. For we shall see him as he is.God will be all in all.
I couldn't have said it better myself.....AMEN!!!
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Old 12-24-2009, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Florida
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If Jesus is God the Father, than we can all be God the Father.


That is what Oneness is all about.

godspeed,

freedom
You said, “If Jesus is God the Father, than we can all be God the Father. That is what Oneness is all about.”

ONENESS IS NOT ABOUT ALL BEING GOD. WHY WAS NO PASSAGE GIVEN TO PROVE THIS? BECOUSE THERE IS NOT ONE.
Being in the image of God does not make us God.
MADE IN GOD'S IMAGE Genesis 1:27. Most probably the #1 proof text for immortality at birth. The argument is that God is immortal. A man is in God's image. Therefore, a man must also be immortal. This argument would make:
God is immortal. A man is in God's image. Therefore, a man must also be immortal.
God is omniscient. A man is in God's image. Therefore, a man must also be omniscient [almighty].
God is omnipotent. A man is in God's image. Therefore, a man must also be omnipotent [all knowing].
When God made a man, He did not give him all His characteristics. God is omnipotent [almighty] and omniscient [all knowing]. A man is not omnipotent or omniscient although he is in God's image, but God is both. Therefore, it does not prove that a person is immortal anymore than it proves a person is almighty. Animals are "living souls" [Genesis 1:20, 21, 24, 30, 2:19] just as persons are "living souls," but animals were not created in the image of God. Therefore, it is not the "living soul" that makes a person be in the image of God. It is obvious that immortality, not subject to death, is not the way man is in "image of God," and it is only assumed to be even when the Bible specifically says otherwise. We now seek immortality [Romans 2:7] and will put on immortality at the resurrection [1 Corinthians 15:53-54], but we are not now immortal; nor do we now have an immaterial invisible part of us that has no substance which is now as immortal as it will ever be. This argument gives the impression that the person making it thinks God has only one attribute, therefore, if a person is in the image of God, that person must also be just as immortal as God is.
“For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and the two shall become come ONE flesh” (Ephesians 5:31). A husband and wife are ONE and yet at the same time they are TWO separate persons.
“That they may all be ONE: even as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You, that they also may be in Us; they the world may believe that You did send Me. And the glory which You have given Me I have given unto they; THAT THEY MAY BE ONE, EVEN AS WE ARE ONE” (John 17:20-21). All believers are ONE as God and Christ are ONE but all believers are many separate persons at the same time that they are ONE. “For even as THE BODY IS ONE and yet has many members, and all the members of the body, though they are many, are ONE BODY, so also is Christ. For in one spirit were we all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether bond or free; and were all made to drink of one Spirit. FOR THE BODY IS NOT ONE MEMBER, but many. If the foot says, ‘Because I am not a hand, I am not a part of the body,’ it is not for this reason any the less a part of the body. And if the ear says, ‘Because I am not an eye, I am not a part of the body,’ it is not for this reason any the less a part of the body. If the whole body were an eye, where would the hearing be? If the whole were hearing, where would the sense of smell be? But now God has placed the members, each one of them, in the body, just as He desired. If they were all one member, where would the body be? BUT NOW THERE ARE MANY MEMBERS, BUT ONE BODY” (1 Corinthians 12:12-14).
Being one does not make us God.
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