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Old 07-01-2010, 04:10 PM
 
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When Dr Missler,who received his PHD through an unaccredited Baptist university,is used as the major reference resource on Hebrew words by accredited theological seminaries,then maybe what he has to say will have some weight.Until then perhaps he should work on getting a real PHD from an accredited university so the Dr will actually mean something.
Your opinion is meaningless. And useless.

Final comment. You aren't worth the time.

 
Old 07-01-2010, 04:20 PM
 
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Your opinion is meaningless. And useless.

Final comment. You aren't worth the time.
Let's see.You post different definitions,via Missler,than the authoritative Hebrew dictionaries give.When I point this out,you tell me that your source is a Dr and not just a Mr.I then point out that he received his "PHD " from an unaccredited very small Baptist university,and you get mad.

Please point out where I am in error in either of the things I have said.I guess the facts can be a b*tch sometimes.


BTW,did you know you can get college credit at the very same university that gave Missler his PHD by buying a book of his and writing a short report on it?Oh yeah,this is a top notch university we are dealing with.
 
Old 07-01-2010, 05:45 PM
 
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Let's see.You post different definitions,via Missler,than the authoritative Hebrew dictionaries give.When I point this out,you tell me that your source is a Dr and not just a Mr.I then point out that he received his "PHD " from an unaccredited very small Baptist university,and you get mad.

Please point out where I am in error in either of the things I have said.I guess the facts can be a b*tch sometimes.


BTW,did you know you can get college credit at the very same university that gave Missler his PHD by buying a book of his and writing a short report on it?Oh yeah,this is a top notch university we are dealing with.
What I told you is that your opinion has no worth. This is based on things you have said elsewhere. As well as your dismissal here of someone who you probably have never even listened to.

I have included here, the Khouse website for those who would like to listen to Dr. Missler on different Biblical subjects.

Koinonia House - The Ministry of Chuck and Nancy Missler

I refer readers back to post # 19.
 
Old 07-01-2010, 06:21 PM
 
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Your opinion is meaningless. And useless.

Final comment. You aren't worth the time.

Mike 555...every ones opinion has meaning and is useful for reproof, correction, and teaching. Every one, including you, is worth the time...otherwise friend "Mahalaleel" (The Blessed One Of God) who "Jared" (Came Down) "Enoch" (Teaching) that "Methuselah" (His Death Would Bring)
"Lamech" (The Despairing) "Noah" (Rest) was wasting his time. The Blessings of The Eternal Bring you joy...
 
Old 07-01-2010, 06:29 PM
 
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Mike 555...every ones opinion has meaning and is useful for reproof, correction, and teaching. Every one, including you, is worth the time...otherwise friend "Mahalaleel" (The Blessed One Of God) who "Jared" (Came Down) "Enoch" (Teaching) that "Methuselah" (His Death Would Bring)
"Lamech" (The Despairing) "Noah" (Rest) was wasting his time. The Blessings of The Eternal Bring you joy...
 
Old 07-01-2010, 06:48 PM
 
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The opinion of a person who speaks without knowledge of the facts is meaningless and useless. You have distorted a doctrine of the word of God. Everyones opinion is NOT useful for reproof, correction, and teaching. What the word of God says, is ''All Scripture is God-breathed, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.'' 2 Tim 3:16.

Apart from knowledge of the word of God, a mans opinions reflect the cosmic doctrines of Satan's cosmic system.
 
Old 07-01-2010, 07:08 PM
 
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I've met the Missler myself. This was some years back when I was a Christian and he was on a visit to Calvary Chapel, Ft. Lauderdale. He was there to promote his "Nephilim" theory. From the looks of it, he walked away with a lot of loot.

As for the topic, I am always leery of the word 'secret.' Here's a book about a god who supposedly wants us to know him but yet his [alleged] book is wrapped up in 'secret' messages that only a select few [allegedly] decipher.
 
Old 07-01-2010, 07:21 PM
 
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The opinion of a person who speaks without knowledge of the facts is meaningless and useless. You have distorted a doctrine of the word of God. Everyones opinion is NOT useful for reproof, correction, and teaching. What the word of God says, is ''All Scripture is God-breathed, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.'' 2 Tim 3:16.

Apart from knowledge of the word of God, a mans opinions reflect the cosmic doctrines of Satan's cosmic system.
Everyone's including yours and the links you provided to another man's...?
 
Old 07-01-2010, 07:25 PM
 
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No. In the Old Testament the phrase 'sons of God' is the Hebrew Bene-ha-Elohim, and is used only for angels. It is found in Gen 6:2; Job 1:6; Job 2:1; and Job 38:7. Aways for angels.

Because Jesus Christ had to come into the world as a member of the human race in order to provide salvation for man, it was Satan's strategy to destroy true humanity by changing it into a hybrid race of half-angelic, half-human beings. Therefore, Satan had certain of the fallen angels who followed him to take human females and impregnate them, giving birth to the Nephilim of Genesis 6.

Compare the following passages.

2 Peter 2:4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into Tartarus and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment, and did not spare the ancient world, but reserved Noah, a preacher of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a flood upon the word of the ungodly... (The only fallen angels that are currently incarcerated in Tartarus are those particular angels who were involved in this Satanic scheme. All other fallen angels are still free and are active participants in the angelic conflict.)

Jude 6 And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day. (A reference to Tartarus, where the angels who as described in Gen 6 and 2 Peter 2:4, took human women, are imprisoned).

1 Peter 3:19 [Speaking of Jesus] ''in which also He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison, [20] who once were disobedient, when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, durng the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through the water. (After His resurrection, Jesus went down into Tartarus and proclamed to the fallen angels who were nvolved in the Genesis 6 incident, that they had failed. Jesus informed them of His strategic victory on the Cross over Satan, and that Satan's and their fate was sealed.)


The half-man, half-gods of Greek mythology are based on the Nephilim who were in fact half-man, half-angelic beings of the antediluvian world. The offspring of the fallen angels who took human women and mated with them.


Here is an informative resource concerning the angelic infiltration of the human race in the antediluvian world.

13 (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:33iDbFQ6uoAJ:www.joegriffin.org/classnotes/jsh/JSH-513.rtf+bene+ha+Elohim+refers+only+to+angels&cd=19 &hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us - broken link)
Colossians 1:20. and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

The below paragraphs are from:

3. The Seven Foundational Biblical Truths

4. THE TRUTH OF THE SHED BLOOD OF CHRIST ON THE CROSS

The cross of Christ is absolutely at the centre of God’s Plan to reconcile all things in heaven and all things on earth to Himself.


Colossians 1:19-20
19 For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell, 20 and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross.

The way of the cross is the only way through which our Holy and Righteous God makes peace with fallen men and fallen angels. The cross of Christ has infinite power to transform all people from unrighteousness to God’s Righteousness and to reconcile all things in the universe making peace with God. This is why Apostle Paul said that he was determined not to know anything except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. (1 Corinthians 2:2)

When God created angels and men, He knew that unrighteousness would enter His creation and angels and men would sin. He worked out a plan to solve the problem of their unrighteousness, even before the creation of the heavens and the earth. The Plan God formulated was for the universal reconciliation of all things, without exception, which includes all of mankind and all fallen angels, through the shed blood of Jesus Christ on the cross.

The Bible says that Jesus Christ is the atoning sacrifice not only for the sins of believers, but also for the sins of the whole world. The sins of the whole world include the sins of all unbelievers and all fallen angels, as the key scripture Colossians 1:15-20 clearly says. A detailed commentary on Colossians 1:15-20 is given in the next chapter.

All of God’s creation, without exception, will be reconciled through the blood of the cross. This is the only way by which the full purpose of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ will ultimately be completely fulfilled, in God’s time and in His order. Anything less than the full reconciliation of all things would be tantamount to defeat and failure of what Jesus Christ accomplished through His sacrifice on the cross.

This is why the traditional doctrine of hell is such a stench in the nostrils of God. God is the Saviour of all men. (1 Timothy 4:10) He is absolutely not a torturer of unbelievers in hell or an annihilator of them either, as unfortunately believed by most Christians.
 
Old 07-01-2010, 07:35 PM
 
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Mike 555...God breathed into you, which makes you living scripture...you therefore are worthy to be taught, to be reproved, to be corrected, and to be instructed in righteousness. If you abuse this scripture by hanging the letters of a book(s) over any ones head God will not love you any less...The more I love you, the less I am loved. The Blessings of The Eternal bring you joy...
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