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Old 07-13-2010, 01:59 PM
 
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Change that to "has done it" and I love it.
Yes I like it!

As well, I was thinking something along the lines of "It is finished"... but that would be too ambiguous by itself. A little wordy, but how about:

"God sent His son to save all people. It is finished. Now all that's left is for humanity to stand absolutely gob-smacked as God slowly reveals His plan to all."

Someone on youtube sent me the "gob-smacked" comment - I thought it was pretty good.

 
Old 07-13-2010, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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How about:

"Hell: Fact or Fiction? "

or

"If God burns people, shouldn't we?"
 
Old 07-13-2010, 02:07 PM
 
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How about:

"Hell: Fact or Fiction? "

or

"If God burns people, shouldn't we?"

I actually had a guy tell me once,in discussing the evil deeds of the church,that burning people at the stake wasn't such a big deal since they were going to burn in hell forever.Might have been some tongue in cheek,but he was an ET proponent and was defending the church.
 
Old 07-13-2010, 02:27 PM
 
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Here's my 2 1/2 cents...

"If you wouldn't allow your own child to be tortured for eternity, why do you think God would? ..."

"God is the savior of all men, but especially of believers." (1 Tim 4:10)


(then a picture of me underneath it smiling and giving a thumbs up) <- if we choose this one.
 
Old 07-13-2010, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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"God is the savior of all men, but especially of believers." (1 Tim 4:10)


(then a picture of me underneath it smiling and giving a thumbs up) <- if we choose this one.
But that is not a verse that supports UR, it only declares Christ's title as the 'saviour', it does not say Christ will save eveyone.
 
Old 07-13-2010, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Italy
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I don't see (and have never seen) how John 3:16 could imply eternal torment!
It simply states that those who believe on Him will not perish. It doesn't say anything about a deadline, expiration date or anything else..

Blessings!
brian
 
Old 07-13-2010, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Wa
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I don't see (and have never seen) how John 3:16 could imply eternal torment!
It simply states that those who believe on Him will not perish. It doesn't say anything about a deadline, expiration date or anything else..

Blessings!
brian
But it does say that they will perish...isn't that enough?
Pretty clear.
 
Old 07-13-2010, 03:06 PM
 
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I don't see (and have never seen) how John 3:16 could imply eternal torment!
It simply states that those who believe on Him will not perish. It doesn't say anything about a deadline, expiration date or anything else..

Blessings!
brian
Yes and in phillipians it is said that all will confess Jesus as Lord to the Glory of the Father.

Whosoever........
 
Old 07-13-2010, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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I don't see (and have never seen) how John 3:16 could imply eternal torment!
It simply states that those who believe on Him will not perish. It doesn't say anything about a deadline, expiration date or anything else..

Blessings!
brian
Did someone argue for eternal torment? It'd funny how URs ALWAYS go back to the topic of eternal torment. You need to work on that obsession.
 
Old 07-13-2010, 04:29 PM
 
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Did someone argue for eternal torment? It'd funny how URs ALWAYS go back to the topic of eternal torment. You need to work on that obsession.

I think you are right, since eternal torment is not anything to be concerned with.
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