Does the Bible say homosexuality is a sin? (Matthew, God, Christians)

[Jaymax]

Originally Posted by modeerf

The idolatrous worship led to a spirit of sexual deviance, which is what having sexual relations with the same sex is caused by.

We wrestle not with flesh and blood, but with principalities, powers and spiritual wickedness in high places.

This is the 21st century.... for most people anyway.

[Jaymax]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

So, you are saying that all the sins mentioned in Romans 1 are not considered sins unless you commit them while performing idoltary? That is quite a reach, don't you think?

Sins mentiones in Romans 1.
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- evil
- greed
- depravity
- envy
- murder
- strife
- deceit
- malice
- gossip
- slander
- God hating
- arrogance
- boastfulness
- creating new ways of doing evil
- disobeying parents
- infidelity
- unlovingness
- unmercifulness
- approving sin of others
- gay sex

You've not read the whole letter have you?

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by Jaymax

You've not read the whole letter have you?

Yes, I have. All of the above sins are mentioned in Romans 1.

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by Jrhockney

That is correct if you don't accept the more liberal arguments about idolatry connections, yes. It still doesn't make the word usage relevant or consistent though. Abomination is a pretty strong word I'm sure they're sick of by now, even if it is used for eating shellfish too in the OT It may sound like I'm just being politically correct here which I am to a degree, but this is a very too sensitive topic for a lot of people so wording is important or its just going to turn

It is not used for eating shellfish. Also, I do not bullhorn anything on the street, I am simply answering the question presented on then OP: does the bible say homosexuality is a sin. The answer if YES, IT IS A SIN.

[modeerf]

Originally Posted by Jaymax

This is the 21st century.... for most people anyway.

What difference does that make?

This generation is a blink within eternity. I hope cultural time frames are not your gauge of what is truth and what is not.

Man is getting further away from God as a whole, not closer.

That is the sad part of the 21st century.

[Jrhockney]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

It is not used for eating shellfish. Also, I do not bullhorn anything on the street, I am simply answering the question presented on then OP: does the bible say homosexuality is a sin. The answer if YES, IT IS A SIN.

Um...what about Leviticus 11:10-12? Different Hebrew word used? Just so we're clear, I wasn't accusing you specifically of bullhorn...yet.. But You're right "if yes, then it is a sin!" lol

[Fiyero]

Originally Posted by Jrhockney

Um...what about Leviticus 11:10-12? Different Hebrew word used? Just so we're clear, I wasn't accusing you specifically of bullhorn...yet.. But You're right "if yes, then it is a sin!" lol

To'evah and abomination do not mean the same thing. Abomination is a gross mistranslation from the KJV, but unfortunately, with the KJV having so much influence in the English speaking world have made the uneducated and ignorant cling to it.

The KJV Uses of ?Abomination? - Bible Abuse Directed at Homosexuals

The fact is that the word ‘abomination’ is at best a bad translation of what is in the Hebraic scriptures. In particular, the particular Biblical term itself to’ba (noun) or ta’ab (verb) is for a transgression that affects a prescribed ritual, not to designate a moral sin. It marks something that is forbidden, often because the religion considers it unclean.

[modeerf]

Originally Posted by Fiyero

To'evah and abomination do not mean the same thing. Abomination is a gross mistranslation from the KJV, but unfortunately, with the KJV having so much influence in the English speaking world have made the uneducated and ignorant cling to it.

The KJV Uses of ?Abomination? - Bible Abuse Directed at Homosexuals

The fact is that the word ‘abomination’ is at best a bad translation of what is in the Hebraic scriptures. In particular, the particular Biblical term itself to’ba (noun) or ta’ab (verb) is for a transgression that affects a prescribed ritual, not to designate a moral sin. It marks something that is forbidden, often because the religion considers it unclean.

Beat this dead horse. It's wrong, its gross, its immoral, its a SIN.

Case closed. Why do you defend it? Repent, the guilt will go away.

The beauty of the gift of Christ, is that forgiveness is for all that come to him, right their path through repentance.

God Bless all of us that struggle with sin, in whatever form it takes.

[Cyber Munchkin]

Originally Posted by modeerf

What difference does that make?

This generation is a blink within eternity. I hope cultural time frames are not your gauge of what is truth and what is not.

Man is getting further away from God as a whole, not closer.

That is the sad part of the 21st century.

Amen....

Originally Posted by modeerf

Beat this dead horse. It's wrong, its gross, its immoral, its a SIN.

Case closed. Why do you defend it? Repent, the guilt will go away.

The beauty of the gift of Christ, is that forgiveness is for all that come to him, right their path through repentance.

God Bless all of us that struggle with sin, in whatever form it takes.

Amen....

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by Jrhockney

Um...what about Leviticus 11:10-12? Different Hebrew word used? Just so we're clear, I wasn't accusing you specifically of bullhorn...yet

Which would would you prefer to use in Lev 20:13? I provided three translations from Hebrew, and they all make it rather clear that such acts do not please God. When God says the penalty for such act is death, then it is clear He did not approve it.