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Old 11-20-2013, 07:31 PM
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"Gay bash" verses, is that what you call them? Acting on homosexual urges is without a doubt a sin and trying to deny it, well, you knew it was wrong and are now looking for reasons to justify it being right. Good luck with that. This subject has been rehashed numerous times and the word of God is unchanged.

 
Old 11-20-2013, 08:08 PM
 
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"Gay bash" verses, is that what you call them? Acting on homosexual urges is without a doubt a sin and trying to deny it, well, you knew it was wrong and are now looking for reasons to justify it being right. Good luck with that. This subject has been rehashed numerous times and the word of God is unchanged.
Hey look! *Gasp!* Another person that should read the whole thread! ;p I didn't make up that term. Its fairly well known among people who stick their heads outside the walls of church/fundamentalist opinion every once in a while. Why do you think I put it in quotes?
 
Old 11-20-2013, 09:47 PM
 
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How about someone show one verse, Just one in which God gave the green light for couple of the same sex to have each other. You will never find the verse and that is why most threads about homosexuality goes on for 30-50 pages because they try to find every loophole possible to justify their sexual sin.

It is as simple as this. God said a man will leave his parents and be joined to his wife.

Genesis 2:24


24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.


Jesus confirms this as well since he upheld and taught from Gods laws.


Matthew 19:4-6


4 And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made[a] them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’[b] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?[c] 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”





The bible is also quite clear that sex should be between a man and woman in marriage, so since God doesnt recognize Gay Marriages, Gay sex is considered sex outside of marriage and is Sexual Immorality and Sexual Immorality applies to Gay and Straight people and if one lives that lifestyle, the bible is also quite clear, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven if you practice a sexually immoral lifestyle.
 
Old 11-20-2013, 10:15 PM
 
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It will never be verifiable to the wantonly hostile to what God said which is found in the Bible.
let me get this straight.
so someone who is raised to believe the bible is the revelation of the creator of the universe without a lick of evidence are to accept oppressive ideologies about a them?



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it's the giving them over to their evilness which displays itself in this manner
so a kid who finds themselves having crushes on people of the same sex is evil?
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it's unnatural
but it is natural...we see it in the animal kingdom all the time, why should humans be exempt of this
inclination? in order for this "unnatural" argument to work, you would first have to reconcile why would someone be gay knowing they would be persecuted for it?

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it's perversion
what would be the criteria used to determine that it is perversion?
 
Old 11-20-2013, 10:18 PM
 
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the word of God is unchanged.
well you need to establish that it is the word of god and not the word of ignorant men first....
 
Old 11-20-2013, 10:22 PM
 
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the only thing that is pathetically sad is that your wanton refusal of the truth will not get you where you think it will.
first you need to establish that you are representing the truth with objective evidence.

you are not just going to allow for people to marginalize you because they believe their god said they should...so why would you expect anyone to do that with out any evidence.

do you normally take assertions based on face value?
do you normally make uneducated decisions?

i certainly hope not, but if you don't then why do you apply double standards to your life?
 
Old 11-21-2013, 12:34 AM
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"Gay bash" verses, is that what you call them? Acting on homosexual urges is without a doubt a sin and trying to deny it, well, you knew it was wrong and are now looking for reasons to justify it being right. Good luck with that. This subject has been rehashed numerous times and the word of God is unchanged.
The "word of God," is the multiply-edited-over-centuries words of a bunch of centuries-dead ignorant men.

And eminently worthy of being consigned to the dustbin of historical myth, instead of clutched to the bosom of those unable or unwilling to think for themselves.
 
Old 11-21-2013, 05:17 AM
 
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Yes, especially in the new testament. It was made very clear that even the "thought" of homosexuality was a serious sin. The first chapter in Romans is very clear that one of the most dangerous sins ever to occur was when men and women felt lust for people of the same gender. It does not even use a single word (so that people could argue) but gives a very detailed, word for word description of the sin of that particular lust.

Lust is the sin. Not just a physical action.
Well that's your interpretation. But you have to take it completely out of it's original context to interpret it that way.
 
Old 11-21-2013, 05:22 AM
 
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Leviticus 18:22 ESV / 233 helpful votes
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ESV / 133 helpful votes

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.


Romans 1:26-28 ESV / 118 helpful votes

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.


Leviticus 20:13 ESV / 111 helpful votes

If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.


Exodus 22:19 ESV / 45 helpful votes
“Whoever lies with an animal shall be put to death.



Romans 1:26 ESV / 28 helpful votes

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature;


Romans 1:29-32 ESV / 27 helpful votes

They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God's decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.





1 Corinthians 6:9 ESV / 4 helpful votes

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
Helpful vote: Try learning about the context and languages in which those verses were written.
 
Old 11-21-2013, 05:25 AM
 
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How about someone show one verse, Just one in which God gave the green light for couple of the same sex to have each other. You will never find the verse and that is why most threads about homosexuality goes on for 30-50 pages because they try to find every loophole possible to justify their sexual sin.
Try finding a verse about intersexed people in the Bible.
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