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Old 09-22-2018, 08:39 AM
 
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GINOLJC, to all.

true the scriptures states we have but one Father, but how do you explain, Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace".

this "Son" is called Father.


In addressing the OP. note the context of the scriptures, see if a Word is expressing the person, or the person actions. other words note if the word is used as a Noun or a verb.

PICYJAG

Yeshayahu - Isaiah - Chapter 9

5 For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace."


Or maybe the translation is wrong because it was modified...
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Old 09-22-2018, 01:02 PM
 
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And people wonder why when evangelicals refer to the Bible as the Word of God we say that it is idolotry, that they are making the book their God.
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Old 09-22-2018, 02:50 PM
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Yeshayahu - Isaiah - Chapter 9

5 For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous advocate, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace."


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First thanks for the reply, yes, maybe your translation is incorrect, because an "advocate" is a "COMFORTER".

supportive scripture, 1 John 2:1 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous".

G3875 παράκλητος parakletos (pa-ra'-klee-tos) n.
1. (properly) one called near (to give help).
2. an intercessor (one who entreats of behalf of another).
3. a comforter.
[(not given)]
KJV: advocate, comforter
Root(s): G3844, G2822

but here's the catch, the "the prince of peace", JESUS is the ONLY ONE WITH ETERNAL LIFE.

supportive scripture, 1 Timothy 6:14 "That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

1 Timothy 6:15 "Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

1 Timothy 6:16 "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen".

Now maybe you can tell us why is the Prince of Life is the ONLY ONE who have IMMORTALITY/Eternal LIFE.

I'll be LOOKING for that answer.

PICYJAG
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Old 09-23-2018, 11:01 PM
 
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GINOLJC, to all.

true the scriptures states we have but one Father, but how do you explain, Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace".

this "Son" is called Father.


In addressing the OP. note the context of the scriptures, see if a Word is expressing the person, or the person actions. other words note if the word is used as a Noun or a verb.

PICYJAG
Exactly! I believe because of our limited understand of just what eternity is, the trinity is broken down for us to have a better understanding of the Godhead. There is one God, but we have it broken down as the trinity, to grasp it. For example, in a person's lifetime, we have a beginning (birth) a middle (life) and an end (death). Every living being has the same. To think that a being (God) has always been in existence, is too hard for us to comprehend. The Trinity breaks it down into terms that are easier to understand. When Adam and Eve sinned, eternity stopped for mankind, and time began. With God eternity continued. After sin is wiped off the face of the earth for good, time will cease and eternity for mankind will resume. In Genesis is is clear that the Word (Jesus) was with God at creation. In fact, it was Jesus that created the earth, an all that is in it, is. In John he mentions the same words, In the beginning, was the Word (Jesus).
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