Good news (crucified, Gospel, hell, myths)

[legoman]

We humans often have a twisted sense of good news.

"Good news, half the company is laid off, but you get to keep your job!"... well I guess its somewhat good news for me (even though I'll have to work twice as hard now, and my job security is hardly guaranteed), but its not so good news for those who lost their job and now might lose their home or worse.

"A 50 passenger plane crashed, but good news, 20 passengers survived!"... well I guess its somewhat good news for the 20 who survived (even though they may have life changing injuries), but what about the rest who died?

And of course the church tells us: "Good news, you can be saved from eternal torments in hell, (but unfortunately your unrepentant great grandparents are burning there right now)".


Do these examples really do justice to something worthy of being called good news? What would be the absolute best example of good news that you could imagine? Let me tell you what I think it is. Its something that every parent tells their 5-year old when they've just scraped their knee from falling off their bike and are bleeding, crying, in pain. They run to Mommy's arms, and Mom says:

"Everything is going to be all right."

That my friends is real good news, in its simplest form. And for that 5-year old, it makes all the difference. Sure their knee is still bleeding, a sharp pain is running up their leg, but now they have hope! Things will get better!

"Everything is going to be all right."

Now Mom is not God, so she can't guarantee that everything really will be all right forever, and its not long before child falls off the bike again, or gets clunked on the head at school, or is heart-broken from a first crush.

Mom has limitations, but she tries her best to comfort. Why do we put such limitations on God's good news? God's good news is as simple as what Mom tells her child, and God has told us He will achieve it for all people:

Luke 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy [good news], which shall be to all people.

Rev 22:3 No longer will there be a curse upon anything.

Isaiah 25:8 he will swallow up death forever.
The Sovereign LORD will wipe away the tears
from all faces;
he will remove the disgrace of his people
from all the earth.

Titus 2:11 [CEV] God has shown us how kind he is by coming to save all people.

If you can believe these words, that is real good news for all people! God's gospel of good news is the absolute best news you can think of, not some half-hearted attempt at man's twisted version of "good news".

Everything is going to be all right.

[Fundamentalist]

Originally Posted by legoman

If you can believe these words, that is real good news for all people! God's gospel of good news is the absolute best news you can think of, not some half-hearted attempt at man's twisted version of "good news".

Everything is going to be all right.

Again Legoman what is the bad news? If there is no bad news then shouldn't it just be called "news" since "good news" wouldn't make any sense.

[legoman]

Originally Posted by Fundamentalist

Again Legoman what is the bad news? If there is no bad news then shouldn't it just be called "news" since "good news" wouldn't make any sense.

Look around. This world is full of bad news. Murders. War. Hate. Death. Destruction.

Right now, there's always bad news. Even if everything is apparently going great for you (and that can change in a heartbeat), someone else is suffering. That's bad news.

The good news is that there will be no more bad news one day.

[Fundamentalist]

Originally Posted by legoman

Look around. This world is full of bad news. Murders. War. Hate. Death. Destruction.

Right now, there's always bad news. Even if everything is apparently going great for you (and that can change in a heartbeat), someone else is suffering. That's bad news.

The good news is that there will be no more bad news one day.

That's the bad news? Jesus was beaten, mocked, brutalised, tortured, spat on, crucified (THE worst form of execution) so we could have a better life? If someone is really suffering a horrible fate then wouldn't death be welcomed, wouldn't death be the good news

[legoman]

Originally Posted by Fundamentalist

That's the bad news? Jesus was beaten, mocked, brutalised, tortured, spat on, crucified (THE worst form of execution) so we could have a better life?

Your missing the point here Fundy. My OP was not only talking about "good news" as in the biblical meaning, just in general in what the term "good news" actually means. In many cases we call things good news that are not good news at all. Any kind of a message that includes billions burning in agony for eternity, is not good news.

If you want to get specific about what the bible says: YES, Jesus was beaten, mocked, brutalised, tortured, spat on, and crucified so that He could take away the sin of the world. And YES that will give all a better life. It will give the best life possible: a life without sin, and a life that knows God. If you can't see that, I'm sorry. Ask God to show it to you.

[.sparrow.]

exactly legoman (re: the good news)

Jesus gave us the two commands for a reason.
When we attempt to follow them with all of our hearts...then His truth is more readily available to see.

His two commands PUSH us to truth.

and all the myths start to crumble into the dust that they truly are.

When a human being can think for himself and push away all of the indoctrination and go to GOD... that is when beautiful truths start to flow into the human heart.

I was just enjoying this reading, and thought I would share it with those who are searching. here ya go:


Universal Salvation: BIBLE PROOFS


peace.

[SisterKat]

Someone once told me to take the test.....Focus on #1 and #2 for some time....earnestly Love God with all of your heart and soul and mind FIRST and then focus on what you can do to enhance the relationships with your friends, family, neighbours and ones that are not high up on your favourites list.

Test this.

What wrong can you do...after all you are following #1 and #2...

You shall see a difference......down deep within your soul.......just try it....trust me....it is something you will not want to stop.

Bless you. Sisterkat

[SisterKat]

ohhhh and, you do not need to be a biblical scholar to do so