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Old 03-23-2010, 04:03 PM
 
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NUMBER IN SCRIPTURE = 90 Psalm 90 The Song of Moses = 63 (Rev. 15:3)

Divine = 36
The Bible = 36
There are 36 writers in the bible (28 in the old testament and 8 in the new)
There are 36 chapters in the book of numbers
And the Lord spake 36 times in Leviticus
And the Lord spake = 63

There are 12 signs of the Zodiac with 36 constellations of stars
The great circle in the heavens is divided into 360 degrees (36 in true digits)
In Noah's time, there were 360 days (called prophetic year) in a year instead of 365 we have today
Antediluvian Adam to Noah are 12 patriarchs x 3 sons = 36
Postdiluvian patriarchs Abraham, Isaac and Jacob x 12 tribes = 36
Revelation 21:12-14 The tribes are positioned in four corners of the earth by:
12,000 x 3 = 36,000

Shem = 18
Ham = 13

Japheth = 32 + 13 + 18 = 63

GOD'S BLUEPRINT = 63
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YHWH = 28 (Exodus 6:3...in most Asian languages, yahweh means "key")
Israel = 28
Joseph = 28
Number = 28
Zion = 28
Peter = 28 (Peter/Petra means stone or rock)
Matthias = 28 (he replaced Judas = 10 Acts 1:26)

THE WORDS OF JESUS HIMSELF REGARDING PETER!!!
Matthew 16:18-19
Revelation of the Church = 110 Psalm 110 (Joseph died at 110 years of age. Genesis 50:26)

v18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my church: and gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
v19 And I will give unto thee the keys of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Luke 22:31-32 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:

But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, "strengthen thy brethren".


John 21:15-17 Jesus asks Peter 3 times, Simon do you love me..."Feed My Sheep"

Revelation 3:7-13 Message to Philadelphia = 97 Psalm 97
...he that is true, "HE THAT HATH THE KEY OF DAVID, HE THAT OPENETH, AND NO MAN SHUTTETH; AND SHUTTETH , AND NO MAN OPENETH.

To understand this genealogy/bloodline account...go back to page 17, post #170 and read all the way to this page. God Bless!
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Old 03-24-2010, 03:15 PM
 
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YHWH = 28 (Exodus 6:3...in most Asian languages, yahweh means "key")
Israel = 28
Joseph = 28
Number = 28
Zion = 28
Peter = 28 (Peter/Petra means stone or rock/distaff...woman's family line. Proverbs 31:19)
Matthias = 28 (he replaced Judas = 10 Acts 1:26)

THE WORDS OF JESUS HIMSELF REGARDING PETER!!!
Matthew 16:18-19
Revelation of the Church = 110 Psalm 110 (Joseph died at 110 years of age. Genesis 50:26)

v18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my church: and gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
v19 And I will give unto thee the keys of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Luke 22:31-32 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:

But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, "strengthen thy brethren".


John 21:15-17 Jesus asks Peter 3 times, Simon do you love me..."Feed My Sheep"

Revelation 3:7-13 Message to Philadelphia = 97 Psalm 97
...he that is true, "HE THAT HATH THE KEY OF DAVID, HE THAT OPENETH, AND NO MAN SHUTTETH; AND SHUTTETH , AND NO MAN OPENETH.

To understand this genealogy/bloodline account...go back to page 17, post #170 and read all the way to this page. God Bless!
Numbers being Pure Logic/language...3+5 is always 8

RESTORATION = 55
Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

Zephaniah 3:9 For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent.

v10 From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed shall bring mine offering.

v11 In that day shalt thou not be ashamed for all thy doings, wherein thou hast transgressed against me: for then I will take away out of the midst of thee them that rejoice in thy pride, and thou shalt no more be haughty because of my holy mountain.

v12 I will also leave in the midst of thee an afflicted and poor people, and they shall trust in the name of the LORD.

v13 The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth: for they shall feed and lie down, and none shall make them afraid. (Isaiah 55:1-13)

v14 Sing, O daughter of Zion; shout, O Israel; be glad and rejoice with all the heart, O daughter of Jerusalem.

v15 The LORD hath taken away thy judgments, he hath cast out thine enemies: the king of Israel, even the LORD, is in the midst of thee: thou shalt not see evil any more.

v16 In that day it shall be said to Jerusalem, Fear thou not: and to Zion, let not thine hands be slack.

v17 The LORD thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing.

v18 I will gather them that are sorrowful for the solemn assembly, who are of thee, to whom the reproach of it was a burden.

v19 Behold, at that time I will undo all that afflict thee: and I will save her that halteth, and gather her that was driven out; and I will get them praise and fame in every land where they have been put to shame.

v20 At that time will I bring you again, even in the time that I gather you: for I will make you a name and a praise among all people of the earth, when I turn back your captivity before your eyes, saith the LORD.

Jeremiah 7 Judah's-18 +External-36 +Religion-53 = 107

Psalm 107:1-43 Whoso is wise, and will observe these things, even they shall understand the lovingkindness of the LORD.


Jer. 7:4
Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD are these.

v8 Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit.

v11 Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the LORD.

God Bless...
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The Book of Life = 66
REVELATION 13:18 Here is wisdom=66

Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six (666).
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Old 03-25-2010, 05:50 PM
 
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"For even as, in Adam, all are dying, thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified. Yet each in his own class: the Firstfruit, Christ; thereupon those who are Christ's in His presence; thereafter the consummation..." (1 Cor 15:22-24, CLT)

All of more than 30 English translations consulted for 1 Cor 15:22 are saying as above. None were made to say (contrary to the Greek) what advocates of ceaseless torture for ever think it means. It is NEVER, "All in Christ;" rather, it is, "In Christ, shall all be vivified"

The ranks, as in military ranks, categories or orders, what is translated here with the word, "Class," begins with: "The Firstfruit, Christ." The reason I bring this up is because I suspect that it describes what emerges in the last seven years of Daniel seventy weeks of years, beginning with the Messiah coming up out of the waters of baptism to enter into His ministry, His being cut off in the midst of the week, being raised as the new man and head of the body of Christ. The last half of the week ends with the stoning of Stephen. So, we have Christ Jesus the seed and Christ the many membered body coming into manifestation precisely according to the ancient prophecy. My focus is on the resurrection when the new man comes forth. There is mention of, "The Firtfruit" ahead of the the tite, "Christ." It is commonly thought of as the historical Jesus Who is Firstfruit out from among the dead. But, as we have already mentioned, Christ also refers to a many-membered body. "For even as the body is one and has many members, yet all the members of the one body, being many, are one body, thus also is the Christ." (1 Cor 12:12, CLT)

The other "Firstfruit" is the 144,000, "A firstfruit to God and the Lamb." (Rv 14:4) These could be those raised with Jesus resurrection.

Matthew 27:50-53 (Concordant Literal Translation)...
50 Now Jesus, again crying with a loud voice, lets out the spirit.
51 And lo! the curtain of the temple is rent in two from above to the bottom, and the earth quaked, and the rocks are rent,
52 and the tombs were opened. And many bodies of the reposing saints were roused,
53 and, coming out of the tombs after His rousing, they entered into the holy city and are disclosed to many.

Whether or not both mentions (Rev 7 and 14) of "the slaves of our God," 144,00 in each case, are the same group is not absolutely established. Not to mention all the theories concerning them, but some possibilities that fit in with the idea they are those who raised from the dead when Jesus was resurrected maybe several: Two groups, one on each side of the veil; The 144,00 of which 12,000 from each tribe are, "Sons of Israel" (Rev 7) raised at Jesus' resurrection and another 144,00 of the gentile (nations) at the entrance into the Millenium; or, both mentions refer to the same group.

Revelation 14:1-5 (Concordant Literal Translation)...
1 And I perceived, and lo! the Lambkin standing on mount Zion, and with It a hundred forty-four thousand, having Its name and Its Father's name written on their foreheads.
2 And I hear a sound out of heaven as the sound of many waters and as the sound of loud thunder, and the sound which I hear is as lyre singers playing on their lyres.
3 And they are singing a new song before the throne and before the four animals and before the elders. And no one was able to learn the song except the hundred forty-four thousand, who have been bought from the earth.
4 These are they who were not polluted with women, for they are celibates. These are those who are following the Lambkin wherever It should be going. These are bought from mankind, a firstfruit to God and the Lambkin.
5 And in their mouth falsehood was not found, for they are flawless.

Revelation 7:2-8 (Concordant Literal Translation)...
2 And I perceived another messenger ascending from the orient, having the seal of the living God. And he cries with a loud voice to the four messengers to whom it was given for them to injure the land and the sea,
3 saying, "You shall not be injuring the land, nor yet the sea, nor yet the trees, until we should be sealing the slaves of our God on their foreheads."
4 And I hear the number of those sealed: a hundred forty-four thousand. Sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel are:
5 out of the tribe of Judah twelve thousand are sealed; out of the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand; out of the tribe of Gad twelve thousand;
6 out of the tribe of Asher twelve thousand; out of the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand; out of the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand;
7 out of the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand; out of the tribe of Levi twelve thousand; out of the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand;
8 out of the tribe of Zebulon twelve thousand; out of the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand; out of the tribe of Benjamin twelve thousand are sealed.
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Old 03-25-2010, 06:11 PM
 
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Most Bible commentaries that I have read concluded that, either these are the spirits or saints, or the Jewish people, (if this were so, then woe unto us Christians...we don't stand a chance, not only are we rejected by Christ, he chose the very people who denied and crucified him.

The word Jews, is short for Judaism...a RELIGION, and not a race.

Revelation 7 speaks of the elect as coming from the 12 tribes of Israel (which are now dispersed to the 4 corners of the earth...US), which means that ALL NATIONS of the world are candidates for this election.

Are they ALIVE? I BELIEVE SO!

The question is, "How to go through the 12 gates"... (Rev. 21:12-13, 17)

Revelation 7:2-4
And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea.

Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads 36? (memory,not literal)

comment: The weight of 36 is 666 when you plus the digits 1+2+3+4+5+6...all the way to 36 will equal 666. (The opposite of God's Mark?)

And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of ISRAEL.

comment: If the angels were to hurt the earth before the chosen were sealed, then they would perish as well. (Die)

Revelation 14:1-5 This passage seems to dash the hope of Christians if we don't look at it closely.

v1 And Looked and lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

comment: John SAW them, tangible, in the flesh!

v2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: (Spirit/angels)

v3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no MAN could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

v4 These are they which were not defiled by women; (male) for they were virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These are the redeemed from among MEN, being the firstfruits (sacrifice) unto God and to the Lamb.

v5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they were "WITHOUT FAULT" before the throne of God.

comment: Jesus would not have to die for them for they are without sin!
Throughout the 66 books of the bible, I have not read of ONE, let alone 144,000 males who are faultless, except for the ONLY begotten son of GOD, The Lord Jesus Christ.

Yet, I cannot deny what is written...then I remembered the slaughter of MALE BABIES, from two years old and below, ordered by herod in search for the newborn Messiah. They must have been the descendants of Joseph, for It was Rachel who wept (Matthew 2:18). These INDEED would be the firstfruits (sacrifice) unto God and to the Lamb. They are WITHOUT GUILE. *The angels who will escort the elect.

Mark 13:20 And except that the LORD had SHORTENED THOSE DAYS, NO FLESH (ALIVE) should be saved: BUT FOR THE ELECT SAKE, WHOM HE HATH CHOSEN, he hath shortened the days.

Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to SEDUCE, if it were possible, even the ELECT.

comment: NOT POSSIBLE!

Mark 13:27 And then shall he *send his angels and gather together his ELECT from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

Revelation 21:12-13,17 The Holy Jerusalem Positioning

...And had a wall great and high, and had 12 gates, and at the gates 12 angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the 12 tribes of the children of ISRAEL: (Rev. 7:5-8)

On the east 3 gates; (36,000)
On the north 3 gates (36,000)
South 3 gates (36,000)
West 3 gates (36,000)

36x4 = 144,000

And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four (144) cubits, according to the measure of man, that is, of an angel.

Revelation 22:14-15

Blessed are they that do his commandments, *(Love thy GOD with all that you are, and Love your neighbor as you love yourself, for when you can do this, 2 to 9 will already be obeyed)

That they may have right to the TREE OF LIFE, and may ENTER through the gates into the City.

For without are DOGS, and SORCERERS, and WHOREMONGERS, and MURDERERS, and IDOLATERS, and WHOSOEVER, LOVETH AND MAKETH A LIE.
*The Crux...God Bless!
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Whenever I encounter the word "SING or SONG"...I always relate it to...she/he who has an ear hear..."an ear for music". The book of Psalms/Proverbs, and the Prophets are singing them...as well as the Holy Angels of the Lord...while the Creator was creating LIFE

It takes 23 pairs of chromosomes to create life!
Life = 23

do-10 +re-14 +mi-13 +fa-7 +so-7 +la-4 +ti-11= 66

The Book Of Life = 66
Female chromosomes xx = 66


He that hath an ear = 66 (those who are not dead in the spirit)
Let-10 +her-22 +hear-23 +what-16 +the-15 +spirit-37 +saith-21 = 144,000 (x1000 years)

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In the following list I noticed that the ages when Adam to Enos died and the verses the numbers were in...is perfectly matched by the book of Psalms:

Genesis 5:5And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years (93 without the zero), Psalm 93 verses are 5 in all.

v8 And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years (912), Psalm 129 verses 8.


v11
And the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years (95), Psalm 95 verses 11

c: Then after Cainan's death, the numbers *reversed and no match are found in Psalms (bypassing Mahalaleel, Jared, Enoch) until Methuselah...and why did Enos name his son after the line of Cain???

v14 And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years (91), Psalm 19 verses 14.

v27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred and sixty and nine years (69+9=78) Psalm 78 verses 72.

Psalm 78:41 Yea, they *turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel.
v72 So he fed them according to the integrity of his heart; and guided them by the skilfulness of his hands.

Gen. 5:31
And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years (7x3=21) Psalm 21:13.

v32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth (still alive, one year before the flood) Psalm 50 verses 23.

Whoso offereth praise glorifieth me: and to him that ordereth his conversation aright will I shew the salvation of God.

Shem-18 +Ham-13 +Japheth-32 = 63 God's Blueprint!

Yet...
It was only in 1228 a.d. that Stephen Langton divided the bible into chapters.
1448 a.d. that R. Nathan divided the OT into verses.
1551 a.d. that Robert Stephanus divided the NT into verses.


Coincidence or Design???
Food for thought

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In the following list I noticed that the ages when Adam to Enos died and the verses the numbers were in...is perfectly matched by the book of Psalms:

Genesis 5:5And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years (93 without the zero), Psalm 93 verses are 5 in all.

v8 And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years (912), Psalm 129 verses 8.


v11
And the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years (95), Psalm 95 verses 11

c: Then after Cainan's death, the numbers *reversed and no match are found in Psalms (bypassing Mahalaleel, Jared, Enoch) until Methuselah...and why did Enos name his son after the line of Cain???

v14 And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years (91), Psalm 19 verses 14.

v27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred and sixty and nine years (69+9=78) Psalm 78 verses 72.

Psalm 78:41 Yea, they *turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel.
v72 So he fed them according to the integrity of his heart; and guided them by the skilfulness of his hands.

Gen. 5:31
And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years (7x3=21) Psalm 21:13.

v32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth (still alive, one year before the flood) Psalm 50 verses 23. (Gen. 5:23...This is the verse where Enoch was taken by God.)

Whoso offereth praise glorifieth me: and to him that ordereth his conversation aright will I shew the salvation of God.

Shem-18 +Ham-13 +Japheth-32 = 63 God's Blueprint!

Yet...
It was only in 1228 a.d. that Stephen Langton divided the bible into chapters.
12+28 = 40

1448 a.d. that R. Nathan divided the OT into verses.
14+48 = 62

1551 a.d. that Robert Stephanus divided the NT into verses.
15+51 = 66


Coincidence or Design???
Food for thought
EL-8 SHADDAI-28 = 36 +The-15 +Creator-35 = 86

Psalm 86:11 Teach-19 +Me-9 +Thy-17 +Way-13, +O-6 +LORD-22 = 86...
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THE WORKS AND WORDS OF EL SHADDAI = 121


Psalm 121:1-8
I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help.
v2 My help cometh from the LORD, which made HEAVEN and EARTH.
v3 He will not suffer my foot to be moved: he that keepeth thee will not slumber.
v4 Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.

v5 The LORD is thy keeper: the LORD is thy shade upon thy right hand.
v6 The sun shall not smite thee by day, nor the moon by night.
v7 The LORD shall preserve thee from all evil: he shall preserve thy soul.
v8 The LORD shall preserve thy going out and thy coming in from this time forth, and even for evermore.

weight of 8: 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 = 36 EL SHADDAI
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Revelation 22
Conclusion = 44 Prophet
v6 And he said unto me, These saying are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.

v7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

v10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: FOR THE TIME IS AT HAND.
v11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

God Bless!
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